Install ? - New user returning to SH4

bgm1961 · 03-03-16, 02:32 PM

Hi all,

I'm a new user who used to play SH4 on my old Win XP machine many years ago. Flash forward to current day and after an absence from the game of about seven years, I've got the itch again and want to install it on my current Win 7 x64 PC. I have the original disk.

Question: There are four patches. After installing the game from the disk, do I then have to install each patch sequentially, or can I simply jump straight to patch #4 and install only that patch by itself?

IOW, Does patch #4 include all the updates and patchwork provided by the previous three patches? I wonder, as many games "back in the day" required sequential patch installation, while other games let you jump to the most recent (if you missed previous patches).

I don't know which case SH4 falls under, and don't want to waste any time or increase any chances of screwing-up the whole installation if I can simply go straight to patch #4.

Thanks!

And BTW, I look forward to hanging out here!

cdrsubron7 · 03-03-16, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgm1961

Hi all,

I'm a new user who used to play SH4 on my old Win XP machine many years ago. Flash forward to current day and after an absence from the game of about seven years, I've got the itch again and want to install it on my current Win 7 x64 PC. I have the original disk.

Question: There are four patches. After installing the game from the disk, do I then have to install each patch sequentially, or can I simply jump straight to patch #4 and install only that patch by itself?

IOW, Does patch #4 include all the updates and patchwork provided by the previous three patches? I wonder, as many games "back in the day" required sequential patch installation, while other games let you jump to the most recent (if you missed previous patches).

I don't know which case SH4 falls under, and don't want to waste any time or increase any chances of screwing-up the whole installation if I can simply go straight to patch #4.

Thanks!

And BTW, I look forward to hanging out here!

First, Welcome to Subsim.

Since you have the original install disk, skip the 1.4 patch and get the UBM (U-Boat Missions). This patches the game up to v1.5. The UBM is an expansion disk which also allows you to command a U-boat in the Indian Ocean. The other benefit is that most of the mods for SH4 are geared for v1.5. Sooner or later you'll want to try using some mods because they really add to the game. You'll have to purchase the UBM, it is not free.

You can find the SH4: The Gold Edition which includes both the original and the UBM here.

Again, welcome aboard.

fireftr18 · 03-03-16, 07:06 PM

Welcome aboard!

We're always glad to have someone new to guide with our vast depth of knowledge and skill. If we can't do that, then we just make up stuff.

I'll back up what cdrsubron7 wrote. The U-boat expansion also fixes a lot of bugs that are still present in version 1.4.

Once you get your feet wet, or artificial IJN sailors feet wet, start experimenting with the mods. They make a great game even better.

Word of warning, ignore Wolverz, he always wants new people to grab his oar. Instead of that, go polish the engines.

Aktungbby · 03-03-16, 07:47 PM

bgm1961!

razark · 03-03-16, 07:48 PM

I'd say go ahead and get a copy with 1.5 built in. It's better in the long run.
But if you insist on not, just install the 1.4 patch. It'll give you everything you'd get out of the previous patches.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireftr18

Instead of that, go polish the engines.

For that, you'll need a bucket of prop wash.

If you can't find any, just ask around.

THEBERBSTER · 03-04-16, 05:35 AM

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Jimbuna · 03-04-16, 09:04 AM

Welcome to SubSim bgm

bgm1961 · 03-04-16, 08:55 PM

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Thank you all, for your kind reception! Also, the information dump was a nice pleasure. I appreciate that.

I'll take your advice and at least go for the UBM download. It dawned on me last night that I don't have the registration number for my original 2008 SH4 Install Disk, and considering a few reports of some problems with getting the game to run properly on machines with a post-XP OS (installed from the original disc), I'm also considering simply downloading the Gold Edition, which will take care of everything in one fell swoop. (I assume). It'll cost $10 more than I may need to pay, but the piece of mind might be worth it.

Anyway, A little about me (since I haven't put any info in my profile yet)...
- Recently Retired Air Force. During my career I used to live in the hills overlooking Pearl Harbor for about 5 years, during which time I spent a lot of time in the halls of US Pacific Command (getting chided by the Navy guys for being Air Force).
- Was also stationed at Guam
- Am slightly ADD, so I have many hobbies. This means I can't be sure how long my interest in WWII sub gaming will be active with me before I get bored and move to another one of my hobbies. The good thing is, when that happens, I'll be back! (I rotate from hobby to hobby, to eventually come back to each one).
- My "core" hobby is board games... "hobby board games", that is. (Am not talking about Monopoly, etc).
- I'm very active on Board Game Geek. My username is bgm1961 (same as here).
- So it's fitting that my current WWII submarine kick is due to the solitaire board game, "Silent Victory: U.S. Submarines in the Pacific 1941-45". Go here for more info if interested: https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardg...acific-1941-45
- With 'Silent Victory' lighting the fire, I decided to pull out my SH4 disc and get back into SH4 also. My PC gaming days go back to the 80's where I played TONS of Micropose's Silent Service!
- The problem was, I played too many PC games (er, too many hours) back in the day and it took control of my life. So I stopped and really haven't been active in PC gaming for the past 15-20 years! (With SH4 being the sole exception back in 2008).
- So, getting back into SH4 now is my first step getting back into PC simming. Hopefully I'm wiser and more disciplined now, so that I can turn the machine off before 3 AM!

fireftr18 · 03-04-16, 09:43 PM

Silent Service

I also had many patrols with [I]Silent Service[I] along with my Step Father and Brother in Law.

03-03-16, 02:32 PM	#1
bgm1961 Nub Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Install ? - New user returning to SH4 Hi all, I'm a new user who used to play SH4 on my old Win XP machine many years ago. Flash forward to current day and after an absence from the game of about seven years, I've got the itch again and want to install it on my current Win 7 x64 PC. I have the original disk. Question: There are four patches. After installing the game from the disk, do I then have to install each patch sequentially, or can I simply jump straight to patch #4 and install only that patch by itself? IOW, Does patch #4 include all the updates and patchwork provided by the previous three patches? I wonder, as many games "back in the day" required sequential patch installation, while other games let you jump to the most recent (if you missed previous patches). I don't know which case SH4 falls under, and don't want to waste any time or increase any chances of screwing-up the whole installation if I can simply go straight to patch #4. Thanks! And BTW, I look forward to hanging out here!

03-03-16, 07:06 PM	#3
fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard! We're always glad to have someone new to guide with our vast depth of knowledge and skill. If we can't do that, then we just make up stuff. I'll back up what cdrsubron7 wrote. The U-boat expansion also fixes a lot of bugs that are still present in version 1.4. Once you get your feet wet, or artificial IJN sailors feet wet, start experimenting with the mods. They make a great game even better. Word of warning, ignore Wolverz, he always wants new people to grab his oar. Instead of that, go polish the engines. __________________ Of all the forms of Martial Arts, Karaoke causes the most pain!

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fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Silent Service I also had many patrols with [I]Silent Service[I] along with my Step Father and Brother in Law. __________________ Of all the forms of Martial Arts, Karaoke causes the most pain!

03-03-16, 07:47 PM	#4
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03-04-16, 08:55 PM	#8
bgm1961 Nub Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	. Thank you all, for your kind reception! Also, the information dump was a nice pleasure. I appreciate that. I'll take your advice and at least go for the UBM download. It dawned on me last night that I don't have the registration number for my original 2008 SH4 Install Disk, and considering a few reports of some problems with getting the game to run properly on machines with a post-XP OS (installed from the original disc), I'm also considering simply downloading the Gold Edition, which will take care of everything in one fell swoop. (I assume). It'll cost $10 more than I may need to pay, but the piece of mind might be worth it. Anyway, A little about me (since I haven't put any info in my profile yet)... - Recently Retired Air Force. During my career I used to live in the hills overlooking Pearl Harbor for about 5 years, during which time I spent a lot of time in the halls of US Pacific Command (getting chided by the Navy guys for being Air Force). - Was also stationed at Guam - Am slightly ADD, so I have many hobbies. This means I can't be sure how long my interest in WWII sub gaming will be active with me before I get bored and move to another one of my hobbies. The good thing is, when that happens, I'll be back! (I rotate from hobby to hobby, to eventually come back to each one). - My "core" hobby is board games... "hobby board games", that is. (Am not talking about Monopoly, etc). - I'm very active on Board Game Geek. My username is bgm1961 (same as here). - So it's fitting that my current WWII submarine kick is due to the solitaire board game, "Silent Victory: U.S. Submarines in the Pacific 1941-45". Go here for more info if interested: https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardg...acific-1941-45 - With 'Silent Victory' lighting the fire, I decided to pull out my SH4 disc and get back into SH4 also. My PC gaming days go back to the 80's where I played TONS of Micropose's Silent Service! - The problem was, I played too many PC games (er, too many hours) back in the day and it took control of my life. So I stopped and really haven't been active in PC gaming for the past 15-20 years! (With SH4 being the sole exception back in 2008). - So, getting back into SH4 now is my first step getting back into PC simming. Hopefully I'm wiser and more disciplined now, so that I can turn the machine off before 3 AM!