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Old 06-15-14, 10:32 AM   #1
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Greetings and salutations, Let me start off and say that I'm new to this site and have briefly played SH3 years ago. Right now I'm playing SH4 with the u-boat add on and will be buying SH5 next month. So far I'm loving the game but there are little things that irk me. For example my deck watch doesn't seem to ever want to take there post. I've gone and manually rotated my crew and that fixed it for about 5 seconds then they got lazy again. I also have no alarm warnings, klaxons, or anyone yelling battle stations when I give the command. Again nothing game breaking just a bunch of little annoying things.

Now I want to mod both SH4 and 5. My first download will be the mod manager. Forgot what it's called. I would greatly appreciate mod suggestions from you guys. I would prefer to use mods compatible with this manager as it will make my mod management that much easier. When you list your mod suggestions please say whether it is for 4, or 5. Also if you could provide direct links to your suggestions that would be a plus.

Now to start off with I need my crew to function properly. This means I shouldn't have to wonder where the hell they are lol. Also if I can make them behave more realistically that would be even better. I also want all my alarms to sound. I want to hear battle stations called out followed by the alarm. I want my dive klaxon, and a overall sound improvement in general to be honest. I want to hear depth charges, ships getting closer, ships breaking up under water ect ect. the stock sfx are really poor and or too soft or non existent.



I want fire to actually cause damage. I want a massive graphics overhaul including realistic environments and weather affects as well as better explosions. One thing that irks me so far in 4 is that the ocean is ALWAYS calm. That's not realistic for me. I want everything to look as real as possible. I want fuel, battery, o2, and co2 to have real life values based on there real life counterparts. A mod that shows enemy fov would be outstanding. I pretty much just want to have the best and most realistic experience possible with 1 exception. The one thing that I really don't want to change is the AI difficulty. I am by no means a expert at this game. I'm not a noob either. I would say I'm on the low end of the experienced spectrum. I know what I'm doing but still need to refine my skills and tactics.

Right now in 4 I'm just re learning how to play the series so I'm playing with unlimited everything and auto torp targeting. When I play 5, I will have all settings set to realistic with the exception of the torps as I royally suck at math big time lol. Any help would be greatly appreciated and sorry for the long post. This is just a series that I'm really in love with.

EDIT, I would also love some added missions to prolong my enjoyment EDIT 2, In regards to sh5, I would love my crew to speak German at all times but my notification journal must be in English so i can understand what there saying. EDIT 3, I guess I should mention that I'm using the steam version of sh4. I've read that it can be difficult to mod with steam so I'm putting that out there. In regards to sh5 I know i need the gold version to save myself a headache. Is it ok to buy the gold download version from amazon or do I (NEED) a physical copy in order to mod?

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Old 06-15-14, 12:47 PM   #2
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Straight to brass tacks. First, I mostly play SH3 and SH4, as my computer won't run SH5. That said, I'll help where I can.

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For example my deck watch doesn't seem to ever want to take there post. I've gone and manually rotated my crew and that fixed it for about 5 seconds then they got lazy again.
I'm not sure what the problem is there. I've played SH4 for several years without ever experiencing that. There are many players here, though, and some of them have to have gone through the same troubles. Hopefully one of them will have the answer.

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I also have no alarm warnings, klaxons, or anyone yelling battle stations when I give the command. Again nothing game breaking just a bunch of little annoying things.
Usually those things happen on the American side, and not with the u-boats, at least as far as I recall. Are you also not having that happen with American boats?

If you're switching back and forth between sides that might cause problems. It takes up extra space on the hard drive but with Multi-SH4 you can run several campaigns at the same time, each using a separate game installation. This is essential if you want each side to speak the correct language, as SH4 only supports one at a time.

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Now I want to mod both SH4 and 5. My first download will be the mod manager. Forgot what it's called.
JSGME, for JoneSoft Generic Mod Enabler.

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I would greatly appreciate mod suggestions from you guys. I would prefer to use mods compatible with this manager as it will make my mod management that much easier. When you list your mod suggestions please say whether it is for 4, or 5. Also if you could provide direct links to your suggestions that would be a plus.
If you're running an American campaign there are several good ones. For the German side you need Operation Monsun and its add-ons. Of course I also recommend the Das Boot Sound Mod for any German campaign, but that's partly because I love it and partly because I'm biased, having assembled the ones for SH3 and SH4.

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Now to start off with I need my crew to function properly. This means I shouldn't have to wonder where the hell they are lol. Also if I can make them behave more realistically that would be even better.
For SH4 we need to figure out why you're having that problem. For SH5 there is no problem, because there's no crew; just a handful of officers and specialists who talk to you, but not much.

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EDIT 2, In regards to sh5, I would love my crew to speak German at all times but my notification journal must be in English so i can understand what there saying.
When you first load up SH5 you need to look for the prompt that makes all the voices German. After that you're good to go. If you miss it there is at least one mod that replaces all the English files with German ones. There are also two excellent DBSM mods available for SH5.

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EDIT 3, I guess I should mention that I'm using the steam version of sh4. I've read that it can be difficult to mod with steam so I'm putting that out there. In regards to sh5 I know i need the gold version to save myself a headache. Is it ok to buy the gold download version from amazon or do I (NEED) a physical copy in order to mod?
You don't need the Gold version for anything, other than a couple of extra ships that were unlockable only through the UBI site. On the other hand, the prices these days are about the same, so Gold is as good as any other version.

I've heard that the Amazon download is just fine. I always get the disc, but that's just me. After all is said and done, have fun.
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Old 06-15-14, 01:13 PM   #3
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Thanks for the info! As far as my audio and crew problems are concerned I've only been playing on the American campaign so all of these issues have to do with that as I haven't touched the u-boat add-on content yet. The das boot mod, is that for 4 only or 5 as well? Also what are DBSM mods? I've been watching some lets play videos and i see mighty fine crew and I believe it's called distant horizons or something along those lines where it increases the campaign to 1945. would these be recommended? Also should I consider any unofficial patches on top of the latest build? I know Ubisoft half assed sh4-5 to a extent.
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Old 06-15-14, 05:58 PM   #4
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A warm welcome ‘Captain_Leavitt’ to the Subsim family.

You will always find someone here to help you.

Link to my SH5 – SH4 posts:

Step By Step Tutorials & How To Do It

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=211804
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Old 06-15-14, 06:08 PM   #5
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A warm welcome ‘Captain_Leavitt’ to the Subsim family.

You will always find someone here to help you.

Link to my SH5 – SH4 posts:

Step By Step Tutorials & How To Do It

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=211804

Thanks, I appreciate it. Just wish I had known about this place years ago lol.
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Old 06-16-14, 07:20 PM   #6
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Ok, so this is wierd. I have been subbed to this site for 2 days now. Yesterday I downloaded my first 5 files which is my daily limit. Today I log in and downloaded improved stock environment v3 by Caustic for sh4. Once i got that in I went to download more mods but I get a message saying I reached my daily download limit. The problem is I should still have 4 downloads left yet I;m being told I have non left. Why is this happening?
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Old 06-17-14, 11:26 AM   #7
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Ok so I'm looking to download open horizons for sh5. I have some questions and also need some clarification. First off when I download this mod do I need the base and then the patch or do I just download the 2.5 version? The type ix add-on, is that the actual boat or is it stats only? Also very important is what environment mods should I use if any with this that will make everything extremely realistic? This includes water, fog, smoke, fire, explosions, and weather. Also I'm having trouble finding the mod that makes fire actually damage ships. Any help with this stuff would be greatly appreciated. Almost forgot, would I be advised to download the latest version of generic patcher with this?


EDIT, With the decks awash command, is that native to stock sh5 or do I need to download a mod for that? If so where do I find it?
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Old 06-17-14, 11:40 AM   #8
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Another question although a bit off topic. I recently heard about the movie das boot. Shocking I know lol. I would love to watch this movie but I ran into a problem. I can't find it with English subtitles. I can find it with subtitles in every language except English. Does anybody know where I can stream this video so I can understand it or do I need to buy a physical copy of the movie?
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Old 06-17-14, 01:53 PM   #9
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When you are starting out you will find most of the answers to your questions below.

Link to my SH5 – SH4 posts:

Step By Step Tutorials & How To Do It

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=211804


Additional mods are not compulsory

Open Horizons II v2.5

Folder 4

MQK Gradient_IO

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MQK LocationMaps_IO

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MQK ShapeTextures_NO

Folder 3

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=3337


If you want to receive your orders in grid form rather than an icon then enable this mod

OH II v2.5 Grid Request fix Patch SH5 (by sober)

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//downloads.php?do=file&id=4438


See Post #35 for mod ideas.
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Old 06-17-14, 02:34 PM   #10
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Thanks THEBERBSTER. I've been reading up on sober's mod list and that has helped me greatly. That being said I have run into some difficulty. The generic patcher download. It confuses the hell out of me. It sounds way way way more complicated then what it probably is. I've read all the documentation on it and I still don't have a clue lol. Is this something I (REALLY) need or can I do without?


EDIT, So I just read post #40 regarding decks awash and I do need the generic patcher. This makes things very difficult. I wish there was a simpler way to get that mod to work. I'm, gonna have to have a friend who is more knowledgeable then me read up on it then use team viewer to help me get this installed and working without giving me a migraine.

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Did you not follow my instructions on Post #2?

If you follow each step you should not have any trouble as I have had some good reports back on this.
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Old 06-17-14, 06:38 PM   #12
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I just spent quite a few hours reading your guide and it's very helpful. The instructions that are on the mod page just seemed way too complicated. The step by step instructions that are in your guide are practically idiot proof lol. Thank you for taking the time to make it. I think part of the problem is (for me anyways) that there is a lot of conflicting info. For example I've noticed that some of the larger and more popular mods will have links in them for several threads where there are more then one version of the mod and or several install instructions on various pages where the info conflicts with each other. This is where everything starts getting confusing lol. Anyways your guide made my life that much easier so thank you.


EDIT, I know sh5 only has one (class) of sub. The type vii. I was wondering if when you get a new sub is it a (upgrade) U21 viia to U21 viib, or do you get a completely new sub in which case you have to re purchase all previous upgrades with renown?

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Old 06-18-14, 04:10 AM   #13
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Have a look at Post #35.

Sobers and Myself are both using mod lists that are stable.

You can pick and choose which ones you want to use.

There are mods that cheat the system by allowing you free and different upgrades.

Go to the 'Downloads Tab' and go to SH5.
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Thanks THEBERBSTER, very helpful and much appreciated.
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The das boot mod, is that for 4 only or 5 as well?
If your refering to the sound mod, I did one for SH3 and one for SH4. Two separate versions have been done by others specifically for SH5

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