No luck...

Fifi · 04-16-13, 12:50 AM

Hi,

Decided to stick with TMO 1.9 without any environmental mod because it's the only mod wich gives me a pretty nice sea rendering without this damn fog issue...and just added SCAF + Max Optics for 1.9.
Everything is fine so far, until first mission where i hitted 2 heavy cruiser with my very first 4 torpedos.
- First one sinked after more than 1 hour, got the sinked icon on map, but nothing counted!

even on captain's log.
- Second one kept on going almost half body underwater!

...and never sunk...

How the hell can a boat still navigate like that??:

Don't think it's very realistic...
Could it be a game corruption by my many mods trying lately?
Shall i reinstall clean SH4 to avoid those problems? (well for first one, cause second one is probably due to game limitation)

Sailor Steve · 04-16-13, 08:46 AM

German battlecruiser Seydlitz after the battle of Jutland, 1916. No, the bow is not underwater, but the ship took on almost 5000 tons of water and still made it home.

And the damage.

With good compartmentation and good damage control the bow or stern of a warship could be isolated and the ship kept afloat. More than one ship had the bow completely torn off in a storm and still survived.

In November 1940 the destroyer HMS Javelin had both her bow and stern blown off. The wreck was kept afloat and towed home. A year later she was back in action.

raymond6751 · 04-16-13, 09:09 AM

At least your torpedoes weren't duds.

Fifi · 04-16-13, 04:14 PM

Wow! Very impressive pictures Sailor Steeve!

Didn't know it was possible!

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Originally Posted by raymond6751

At least your torpedoes weren't duds.

Yeah, for once!

But in the doubt, made a clean install and started a new career (once again!) with only TMO 1.9 and its patch, plus SCAF for 1.9 and Max Optics.
1.9 is really nice on my rig, only missing the 2.5 nice colored map

Cybermat47 · 04-16-13, 05:44 PM

Oh my God, that is the most beautiful water I have ever seen

My new PC should be ready today, I'm definitely going to install SH4 and whatever mod that is!

acofm89 · 04-16-13, 05:58 PM

Large warships are built to take a lot of punishment with multiple watertight compartments to contain flooding and stuff like that. The Yamato took at least eleven hits from torpedos and several bombs from USN aircraft before she went down. That was one tough ship

Armistead · 04-17-13, 05:28 AM

Wait until you hit one like that and the bow goes under and the props come out of the water and it can't go anywhere.

Technically, the bow goes under, the ship should sink, but I have read a few stories of ships running in reverse with a sunken bow nose or towed back to base reversed.

AVGWarhawk · 04-17-13, 07:40 AM

Worse yet, get a hit or two seeing you need just one more torp to finish the job....only to find your stores are empty.

Fifi · 04-17-13, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

.... seeing you need just one more torp to finish the job....

That's a difference i found between TMO 1.9 and 2.5...
Meaning for same heavy cruiser in 1.9, i usually need at least 2 torp hit to sink him, while in 2.5 i was able to sink him only with 1 torp...
But maybe it could be related to a hull hitting place

TorpX · 04-17-13, 10:43 PM

There is a large random element. You can't expect to get the same results each time.

merc4ulfate · 04-18-13, 07:33 PM

I never had the fog issue you spoke of with any TMO. There is an environmental mod, Improved Stock Enviroment 3, I can not run that at all due to the over abundance of fog.

Fifi · 04-18-13, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merc4ulfate

I never had the fog issue you spoke of with any TMO. There is an environmental mod, Improved Stock Enviroment 3, I can not run that at all due to the over abundance of fog.

My fog issue wasn't with TMO alone...was with ISE V3 or V2.
Problem is i needed those ISE to get a nice sea rendering

But actually i'm running TMO 2.5 with a french mod that is adjusting few of those issues (fog and sea rendering). Not perfect yet, but in good shape.
Still some adjustments to do for sea, as fog issue seems gone.

04-16-13, 12:50 AM	#1
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 6,088 Downloads: 466 Uploads: 0	No luck... Hi, Decided to stick with TMO 1.9 without any environmental mod because it's the only mod wich gives me a pretty nice sea rendering without this damn fog issue...and just added SCAF + Max Optics for 1.9. Everything is fine so far, until first mission where i hitted 2 heavy cruiser with my very first 4 torpedos. - First one sinked after more than 1 hour, got the sinked icon on map, but nothing counted! even on captain's log. - Second one kept on going almost half body underwater! ...and never sunk... How the hell can a boat still navigate like that??: Don't think it's very realistic... Could it be a game corruption by my many mods trying lately? Shall i reinstall clean SH4 to avoid those problems? (well for first one, cause second one is probably due to game limitation) __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/rfw2h...N_V7.8.7z/file

04-16-13, 08:46 AM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	German battlecruiser Seydlitz after the battle of Jutland, 1916. No, the bow is not underwater, but the ship took on almost 5000 tons of water and still made it home. And the damage. With good compartmentation and good damage control the bow or stern of a warship could be isolated and the ship kept afloat. More than one ship had the bow completely torn off in a storm and still survived. In November 1940 the destroyer HMS Javelin had both her bow and stern blown off. The wreck was kept afloat and towed home. A year later she was back in action. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-16-13, 09:09 AM	#3
raymond6751 Admirable Mike Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,338 Downloads: 421 Uploads: 0	The bright side At least your torpedoes weren't duds. __________________ Game Designer: Close The Atlantic - World War Three https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/...orld-war-three

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Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,408 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 23	Oh my God, that is the most beautiful water I have ever seen My new PC should be ready today, I'm definitely going to install SH4 and whatever mod that is! __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394

04-17-13, 05:28 AM	#7
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Wait until you hit one like that and the bow goes under and the props come out of the water and it can't go anywhere. Technically, the bow goes under, the ship should sink, but I have read a few stories of ships running in reverse with a sunken bow nose or towed back to base reversed. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

04-16-13, 05:58 PM	#6
acofm89 Watch Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: 20'000 leagues under the sea Posts: 29 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Large warships are built to take a lot of punishment with multiple watertight compartments to contain flooding and stuff like that. The Yamato took at least eleven hits from torpedos and several bombs from USN aircraft before she went down. That was one tough ship

04-17-13, 07:40 AM	#8
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Worse yet, get a hit or two seeing you need just one more torp to finish the job....only to find your stores are empty.

04-17-13, 10:43 PM	#10
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	There is a large random element. You can't expect to get the same results each time.

04-18-13, 07:33 PM	#11
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	I never had the fog issue you spoke of with any TMO. There is an environmental mod, Improved Stock Enviroment 3, I can not run that at all due to the over abundance of fog.