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Old 01-16-13, 03:53 AM   #1
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21040410

No idea of casualties yet, but it looks a mess.
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Old 01-16-13, 03:59 AM   #2
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Just watching this now on BBC, it doesn't look too for anyone who was walking\driving where it came down.
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Old 01-16-13, 04:09 AM   #3
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Just watching this now on BBC, it doesn't look too for anyone who was walking\driving where it came down.
One pilot on the chopper, two or three cars on the ground, it's early in the morning, freezing fog, heli-port on the other side of the river from the crash site. Looks like he came in for landing and didn't see the crane until its too late. It managed to avoid most of the residential buildings in the area but, yeah, if anyone was underneath that when it came down...not good.
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Just been confirmed that two have been killed now
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Tragic....

seems there where also 2 wounded

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Old 01-16-13, 05:38 AM   #6
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Only two dead and two injured? If that's all then it's been relatively lucky for a crash in the city at 8am!

A lot of talk about whether or not the crane had AWLs, eyewitnesses seem to be vague if they saw them or not.
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Tragic....two dead is two too many
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Ouch! And Lambeth is not too far away from me either.
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This is strange. London METAR this morning was not exactly VFR-friendly, and there's no way the helo should have been this low if IFR. Weird.

EDIT - I see it was diverting to Battersea. That explains a bit. Nasty weather for it though.
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This is strange. London METAR this morning was not exactly VFR-friendly, and there's no way the helo should have been this low if IFR. Weird.

EDIT - I see it was diverting to Battersea. That explains a bit. Nasty weather for it though.
I might even agree with you, if knew what the hell any of those acronyms meant^
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METAR is a format for reporting weather information. A METAR weather report is predominantly used by pilots in fulfillment of a part of a pre-flight weather briefing, and by meteorologists, who use aggregated METAR information to assist in weather forecasting.

Visual flight rules (VFR) are a set of regulations under which a pilot operates an aircraft in weather conditions generally clear enough to allow the pilot to see where the aircraft is going. Specifically, the weather must be better than basic VFR weather minima, i.e. in visual meteorological conditions (VMC), as specified in the rules of the relevant aviation authority. The pilot must be able to operate the aircraft with visual reference to the ground, and by visually avoiding obstructions and other aircraft.

Instrument flight rules (IFR) is one of two sets of regulations governing all aspects of civil aviation aircraft operations; the other is visual flight rules (VFR).
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Old 01-16-13, 11:24 AM   #12
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I wondered when and how the tenuous local links would occur.

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Captain Pete Barnes flew the area's ambucopter and would probably have been involved in incidents in North East Lincolnshire.
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Woah, you guys meant actually in London. Anytime an aircraft crashes in an urban area it will be very messy. As tragic as it is, if there are only 4 victims, then things were quite fortunate overall.
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Woah, you guys meant actually in London. Anytime an aircraft crashes in an urban area it will be very messy. As tragic as it is, if there are only 4 victims, then things were quite fortunate overall.
That figure's been amended to two dead, 12 wounded - none severely, fortunately.

A slight change in direction and speed and it would've been a whole lot worse.
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This is terrible. You don't really expect a plane or helicopter to crash in a capital city.
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