MBE for Bletchley codebreaker

Jimbuna · 12-29-12, 12:05 PM

It's been an awfully long wait.

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A Bletchley Park codebreaker who has been appointed MBE in the New Year Honours said he still hopes his whole team will one day be recognised.
Raymond "Jerry" Roberts, 92, receives the honour for services to the WWII decryption centre and to codebreaking.
Mr Roberts, of Hampshire, was among four founder members of the Testery section tasked with breaking the German High Command's Tunny code.
The decrypts are credited with helping shorten the war by at least two years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...herts-20859561

GT182 · 12-29-12, 05:09 PM

I cannot believe Mr. Roberts and his fellow code breakers have never been properly recognised. That is utterly atrocious. But then again, the US never properly recognised it's Native American code breakers either.

Jimbuna · 12-29-12, 05:27 PM

True that

STEED · 12-29-12, 05:37 PM

As usual too bloody late.

Jimbuna · 12-29-12, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

As usual too bloody late.

Well give praise to the politicians...especially those who never lifted a finger to keep our country free of tyrany...you've loads of choices

STEED · 12-29-12, 05:49 PM

Everyone who worked at Bletchley should have got something many many years ago.

Jimbuna · 12-29-12, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Everyone who worked at Bletchley should have got something many many years ago.

True that but like my father he had to wait nearly 40 years before the Russians alcknowledged what he and many others risked during the Russian Convoy years and it is only this year (or next) that I believe your mate Camerons government is about to strike them a medal.

Platapus · 12-30-12, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Everyone who worked at Bletchley should have got something many many years ago.

While I agree in principle, it should also be recognized that when you are involved in highly secret work, often you don't get recognition. It kinda goes with the job.

Not saying it is fair, but our histories are full of unrecognized people who have conducted critical services to their country.

TarJak · 12-30-12, 05:27 PM

Recognition for service should have been immediate, secret or not. The governments of the day though saw it differently. TBH I think today's governments are really only doing it for the PR, rather than for the people who served.

Platapus · 12-30-12, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

Recognition for service should have been immediate, secret or not.

Recognition may indeed have been immediate. But if the recognition was held in channels (not uncommon), the public would never know.

Cybermat47 · 12-30-12, 08:15 PM

They shortened the war by a year...and now they get recognised!?

BossMark · 12-31-12, 04:15 AM

Well it took long enough...............

Jimbuna · 12-31-12, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

They shortened the war by a year...and now they get recognised!?

From the posted article:

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The decrypts are credited with helping shorten the war by at least two years.

TarJak · 12-31-12, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Recognition may indeed have been immediate. But if the recognition was held in channels (not uncommon), the public would never know.

I've got no problem with that.

12-29-12, 05:09 PM	#2
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	I cannot believe Mr. Roberts and his fellow code breakers have never been properly recognised. That is utterly atrocious. But then again, the US never properly recognised it's Native American code breakers either. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,447 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	True that __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	As usual too bloody late. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Everyone who worked at Bletchley should have got something many many years ago. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,408 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 23	They shortened the war by a year...and now they get recognised!? __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394

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TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Recognition for service should have been immediate, secret or not. The governments of the day though saw it differently. TBH I think today's governments are really only doing it for the PR, rather than for the people who served.

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BossMark Fleet Admiral Join Date: May 2011 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 15,272 Downloads: 278 Uploads: 0	Well it took long enough............... __________________ Never trust the Tories look what Thatcher and Major did in the 80s and 90s and look what the wicked witch May is doing now doing now