[WIP] Damaged Engine Smoke

U570 · 07-12-12, 03:26 AM

Hi all,
I am trying to recreate the look of smoke coming from U-185 when one of her diesel engines seized up, as seen in the top left of this picture

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the dense black smoke from the burning left diesel is still pouring out of the stricken boat

I have made a node in the .val for the VIIC so far, and I know what needs to be done, but I don't know how to do it

. I need to link the smoke to the "Diesel engines damaged" Message, or somewhere along those lines.

postalbyke · 07-12-12, 08:42 AM

Which pic? I can't see the link or the photo...

edit: I'm being dumb. Or my browser is. Sorry guys :P

07-15-12, 05:54 PM

I think you need to PM Anvart about StateMachineControllers.

He's the Expert on stuff like this.

U570 · 07-16-12, 01:20 AM

Okay, thanks privateer. I have been trying to understand StateMachines and teach my self. So far I've got a minor idea (copying from other files for smoke, and damaged engines).

Anvart · 07-16-12, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by U570

... I am trying to recreate the look of smoke coming from U-185 when one of her diesel engines seized up ...

In sh3 engine there is no event 'seized up'...

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Originally Posted by privateer

I think you need to PM Anvart about StateMachineControllers.
He's the Expert on stuff like this.

StateMachineCtrl determines the behavior of the crew and works with the crew commands only.
What event or UBoat state you choose?
I do not know of anything that is appropriate for your task.
I think, you should use usual technique of damages - *.zon, Zones.cfg and may be new effects (smoke) in particles.dat/Materials.dat.

U570 · 07-16-12, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Anvart

In sh3 engine there is no event 'seized up'...

I'll just set it so the smoke pours out when the engine is xxx amount damaged

Anvart · 07-18-12, 12:24 AM

What and where...
You are seeing existing zones of engines (from Zones.cfg) for Type 7c hull (stock game).
You can use existing zones or you can create new types of zones in Zones.cfg and use them.

Your actions:
* Zones.cfg. Create a new zones in the list... eg:
192 = MyDEngine1
193 = MyDEngine2
* Zones.cfg. Create two sections in UBoat Items part... eg:
[MyDEngine1]
...
Effect1 = ...
...
[MyDEngine2]
...
Effect1 = ...
...
with existing (in particles.dat) or new effects.
* Create new boxes in NSS_Uboat7 *.zon with new zones Indexes.
...
This is a simplified flow chart.
Sorry if I missed something.

U570 · 07-18-12, 02:17 AM

Okay, so I have created a new particle generator (based on Racerboy/TDW's exhaust) and linked those nodes to the DieselEngine1 and -2 zones, while using #funnel_smoke as a third effect. Am I on the right track?
Also, brilliant 5-min tutorial

Anvart · 07-18-12, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by U570

Okay, so I have created a new particle generator (based on Racerboy/TDW's exhaust) and linked those nodes to the DieselEngine1 and -2 zones, while using #funnel_smoke as a third effect. Am I on the right track?
Also, brilliant 5-min tutorial

'... based on Racerboy/TDW's exhaust ...'
Don't know what is it...
For these things i used obj_Funnel controllers and custom smokes

Not enough specific information ... but somewhere around that.

U570 · 07-18-12, 05:23 AM

Here's what I mean:

The parts in boxes are the particle generators based on this mod: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1496

I will try your method to see how easy (most likely) it is.

U570 · 07-23-12, 06:40 AM

Okay, I have tried and tested the obj_Funnel smoke, set the damage to a relatively logical damage level in the Zones.cfg tested it by getting myself killed many times over, all of which I took major damage to the Diesel Engine room but it didn't smoke. Am I doing it wrong? all I have done is added obj_Funnel to the 7c.sim and linked it to #funnel_smoke in the particle.dat.

Anvart · 07-24-12, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by U570

Okay, I have tried and tested the obj_Funnel smoke, set the damage to a relatively logical damage level in the Zones.cfg tested it by getting myself killed many times over, all of which I took major damage to the Diesel Engine room but it didn't smoke.

Look, may be EngineRoom box covers DiselEngine1 and DiselEngine2 boxes in *.zon...
and pay attention to the sizes and position of the boxes

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... all I have done is added obj_Funnel to the 7c.sim and linked it to #funnel_smoke in the particle.dat.

Why?
I wrote about the use of obj_Funnel controller in the modes such as diesel "exhaust"...

07-12-12, 08:42 AM	#2
postalbyke Chief Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: In the past... Posts: 321 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 1	Which pic? I can't see the link or the photo... edit: I'm being dumb. Or my browser is. Sorry guys :P __________________ God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh. -Voltaire Last edited by postalbyke; 07-12-12 at 09:38 AM.

07-16-12, 01:20 AM	#4
U570 Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 867 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Okay, thanks privateer. I have been trying to understand StateMachines and teach my self. So far I've got a minor idea (copying from other files for smoke, and damaged engines). __________________ "Submariners are a bunch of intelligent misfits that somehow seem to get along, understand each other and work well together"- Anon

07-18-12, 12:24 AM	#7
Anvart Admiral Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Russia ® Posts: 2,492 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 1	What and where... You are seeing existing zones of engines (from Zones.cfg) for Type 7c hull (stock game). You can use existing zones or you can create new types of zones in Zones.cfg and use them. Your actions: * Zones.cfg. Create a new zones in the list... eg: 192 = MyDEngine1 193 = MyDEngine2 * Zones.cfg. Create two sections in UBoat Items part... eg: [MyDEngine1] ... Effect1 = ... ... [MyDEngine2] ... Effect1 = ... ... with existing (in particles.dat) or new effects. * Create new boxes in NSS_Uboat7 .zon with new zones Indexes. ... This is a simplified flow chart. Sorry if I missed something. __________________ Alex ® Moses said: "Don't create yourself an idol"... Last edited by Anvart; 07-18-12 at 02:08 AM.*

07-18-12, 02:17 AM	#8
U570 Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 867 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Okay, so I have created a new particle generator (based on Racerboy/TDW's exhaust) and linked those nodes to the DieselEngine1 and -2 zones, while using #funnel_smoke as a third effect. Am I on the right track? Also, brilliant 5-min tutorial __________________ "Submariners are a bunch of intelligent misfits that somehow seem to get along, understand each other and work well together"- Anon

07-18-12, 05:23 AM	#10
U570 Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 867 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Here's what I mean: The parts in boxes are the particle generators based on this mod: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1496 I will try your method to see how easy (most likely) it is. __________________ "Submariners are a bunch of intelligent misfits that somehow seem to get along, understand each other and work well together"- Anon

07-15-12, 05:54 PM	#3
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I think you need to PM Anvart about StateMachineControllers. He's the Expert on stuff like this.

07-23-12, 06:40 AM	#11
U570 Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 867 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Okay, I have tried and tested the obj_Funnel smoke, set the damage to a relatively logical damage level in the Zones.cfg tested it by getting myself killed many times over, all of which I took major damage to the Diesel Engine room but it didn't smoke. Am I doing it wrong? all I have done is added obj_Funnel to the 7c.sim and linked it to #funnel_smoke in the particle.dat. __________________ "Submariners are a bunch of intelligent misfits that somehow seem to get along, understand each other and work well together"- Anon