Total frustration with damage control ....!!!

Charlie901 · 02-23-12, 10:26 AM

Ok so I sunk a liberty cargo and I'm running silent and deep when I start getting dc'ed....

Engine room starts flooding like crazy and sub systems screen shows a little hammer pounding away like crazy on the DIESEL ENGINES....?

Really?

So I eventually hit crush depth due to the flooding but at least my diesels were repaired to 86%.....

How the heck do you put a priority on flooding and why in the world would my idiot crew be auto repairng the diesels in this senario....?

So I'm running through the sub like a lunatic and happen to see several of my crewmen relaxing in their bunks and even READING A BOOK during this whole fiasco.

Am I missing something here with SH5's damage control system?

As bad as the micro management of the crew was in SH3 I really miss the control of the crew and being able to organize damage control teams and prioritize repairs.

I believe that the entire damage control aspect to this game is unfinished

Dignan · 02-23-12, 10:42 PM

Wait until your chief gets a paper cut and refuses to start flooding control or damage control because he's "injured." That really sends me over the edge.

90% of SH5 has been modded to a more than acceptable level. This is one of the final things that really bugs me. Crew animations don't synch with what's going on and not being able to order damage control just b/c a few of your officers are injured.

That, and if someone can fix it so the magnetic detonators work on torpedoes...this game would be almost complete.

Hinrich Schwab · 02-24-12, 01:11 PM

The issue is that the damage control function is tied directly to the LI and his "skills". The functions are basic critical functions that should not require the LI to be "minty fresh" to execute. If a boat is flooding in any of the other sims or IRL, even Bernard will help. The only skill I can see justified as attached to the LI is the "Repair Destroyed System" skill. This means that the Chief is jury-rigging something that technically should be out of service without a drydock. If the Chief is beat-up, he is obviously not in the condition to rig anything. Flooding and basic damage control need to be independent of the horribly broken skill system. I would expect to see a "Damage Control" tab on the Status menu handling all of these basic functions.

Paulski · 02-24-12, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dignan

That, and if someone can fix it so the magnetic detonators work on torpedoes...this game would be almost complete.

So that's why none of my torps detonated when I aimed them under the keel...

THE_MASK · 02-24-12, 06:25 PM

Take a look at this file and see if you can adjust it . Its all in the save game files so its all relevant .

C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\data\UPCDataGE\UPCCrewData\CrewMembers

why would there be a 1 chance factor for a life threatening wound and a 0.1 chace factor for a minor wound ?

Dignan · 02-24-12, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sober

Take a look at this file and see if you can adjust it . Its all in the save game files so its all relevant .

C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\data\UPCDataGE\UPCCrewData\CrewMembers

why would there be a 1 chance factor for a life threatening wound and a 0.1 chace factor for a minor wound ?

Would it be possible to mod this file so nobody gets injured ever? I'd rather have it that way than have the broken system that is currently in the game. Besides, I think it was rare for individual crew members to be injured. In sub warfare it was sort of all or nothing. Either everyone survived or the whole crew perished.

THE_MASK · 02-24-12, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dignan

Would it be possible to mod this file so nobody gets injured ever? I'd rather have it that way than have the broken system that is currently in the game. Besides, I think it was rare for individual crew members to be injured. In sub warfare it was sort of all or nothing. Either everyone survived or the whole crew perished.

Increase the hitpoints or these MinDamage, MaxDamage, ChanceFactor . Waiting for the mod

Hinrich Schwab · 02-24-12, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dignan

Besides, I think it was rare for individual crew members to be injured. In sub warfare it was sort of all or nothing. Either everyone survived or the whole crew perished.

This is very true. In combat, it was either everyone lives or everyone goes on eternal patrol. In regards to individual crewmember casualties, in most instances, it was a member of the deck crew that became the casualty. Getting chewed up while on one of the guns or being washed overboard in foul weather would have been the biggest risks. Below decks, it would have been malnutrition, food poisoning (from spoiled food) or hygiene related issues that create casualties.

Rubini · 02-24-12, 09:31 PM

A bit OT, but I also noticed that my crew on watch tower don´t makes nothing, don´t say nothing, act as a normal situation EVEN if the boat is being attacked at surface by a enemy ship. What a hell?

No messages like in SH3: "We may be detected, sir" or "We are being attacked , sir"

Any idea?

Dignan · 02-24-12, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sober

Increase the hitpoints or these MinDamage, MaxDamage, ChanceFactor . Waiting for the mod

I tried setting MinDamage, MaxDamage, ChanceFactor all to "0". Didn't seem to do anything. Any ideas?

02-23-12, 10:26 AM	#1
Charlie901 XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 413 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Total frustration with damage control ....!!! Ok so I sunk a liberty cargo and I'm running silent and deep when I start getting dc'ed.... Engine room starts flooding like crazy and sub systems screen shows a little hammer pounding away like crazy on the DIESEL ENGINES....? Really? So I eventually hit crush depth due to the flooding but at least my diesels were repaired to 86%..... How the heck do you put a priority on flooding and why in the world would my idiot crew be auto repairng the diesels in this senario....? So I'm running through the sub like a lunatic and happen to see several of my crewmen relaxing in their bunks and even READING A BOOK during this whole fiasco. Am I missing something here with SH5's damage control system? As bad as the micro management of the crew was in SH3 I really miss the control of the crew and being able to organize damage control teams and prioritize repairs. I believe that the entire damage control aspect to this game is unfinished

02-23-12, 10:42 PM	#2
Dignan Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 698 Downloads: 262 Uploads: 0	Wait until your chief gets a paper cut and refuses to start flooding control or damage control because he's "injured." That really sends me over the edge. 90% of SH5 has been modded to a more than acceptable level. This is one of the final things that really bugs me. Crew animations don't synch with what's going on and not being able to order damage control just b/c a few of your officers are injured. That, and if someone can fix it so the magnetic detonators work on torpedoes...this game would be almost complete. __________________

02-24-12, 09:31 PM	#9
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	A bit OT, but I also noticed that my crew on watch tower don´t makes nothing, don´t say nothing, act as a normal situation EVEN if the boat is being attacked at surface by a enemy ship. What a hell? No messages like in SH3: "We may be detected, sir" or "We are being attacked , sir" Any idea? __________________ One gamer's must-have mod is another gamer's waste of time. -Sailor Steve

02-24-12, 01:11 PM	#3
Hinrich Schwab Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 908 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	The issue is that the damage control function is tied directly to the LI and his "skills". The functions are basic critical functions that should not require the LI to be "minty fresh" to execute. If a boat is flooding in any of the other sims or IRL, even Bernard will help. The only skill I can see justified as attached to the LI is the "Repair Destroyed System" skill. This means that the Chief is jury-rigging something that technically should be out of service without a drydock. If the Chief is beat-up, he is obviously not in the condition to rig anything. Flooding and basic damage control need to be independent of the horribly broken skill system. I would expect to see a "Damage Control" tab on the Status menu handling all of these basic functions.

02-24-12, 06:25 PM	#5
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Take a look at this file and see if you can adjust it . Its all in the save game files so its all relevant . C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\data\UPCDataGE\UPCCrewData\CrewMembers why would there be a 1 chance factor for a life threatening wound and a 0.1 chace factor for a minor wound ?