A little late to the modding community

Hinrich Schwab · 02-12-12, 06:15 AM

I know SH II is older than dirt, at this point, but in the few days I have owned it, I have enjoyed it immensely and want to make my own missions. I dug through the archives and found out about "Koralle", the mission editor. Naturally, all of the links are dead because the parent game is so old. Does anyone have a link or copy of this old program so I can turn myself loose on SH II?

Red October1984 · 02-12-12, 09:11 AM

I have had some issues with some mods here for download. Like the minefield mod, das boot periscope mod, and the chart station mod.

Hinrich Schwab · 02-12-12, 03:21 PM

I don't know about those mods, I am trying to hunt down Koralle, first.

Malefactor · 02-12-12, 04:24 PM

I still have a copy.

PM me here on the forum and I'll hook you up with Koralle.

Hinrich Schwab · 02-12-12, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malefactor

I still have a copy.

PM me here on the forum and I'll hook you up with Koralle.

Message sent

aanker · 02-13-12, 01:14 PM

I have it too if you are unsuccessful.

Happy Hunting!

Art

Hinrich Schwab · 02-13-12, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aanker

I have it too if you are unsuccessful.

Happy Hunting!

Art

Thanks for the offer. Malefactor already hooked me up.

Hinrich Schwab · 02-15-12, 01:22 AM

Now that I have the tools, I am now looking for guides to help make my missions. The manual in Koralle is not so much a manual as it is a tutorial for how to make the presupplied mission. I looked through the old forum archives, but it is like a needle in a haystack. Suggestions?

aanker · 02-15-12, 03:43 PM

Koralle mission editor

In the Koralle folder should be a compressed 14.3 MB folder, Koralle.CAB that can be opened with WinRar etc. Inside that are a lot of files and folders including a Koralle.PDF with detailed instructions.
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Kriegstanz scenario generator

For some reason I installed "Kriegstanz" & "KD" that also came with a nice PDF 'how to' for my scenarios. Maybe it was because I used Pacific Aces on top of SH II. I don't remember but KD always worked great for me.

Just throwing that out there as another choice:

"Kriegstanz" & "KD"

Quote:

Kriegstanz is a random scenario generator for the Silent Hunter II and Destroyer Command naval warfare simulators. It creates missions that are largely unpredictable with a high degree of randomness. Players will find each generated mission to be vastly different from the previous one, more so than the limited randomness allowed in the one provided with the game.

Kriegstanz Developer (or KD for short) is a utility for creating, generating, editing and testing files used by Kriegstanz itself. These files are called "Theatre" files, and specify the date range and possible placements of various groups and units, as well as other factors such as weather. Almost all of the functionality of Kriegstanz is included in KD.

So, if you wanted to simulate Operation Drumbeat for example, you would be able create a Theatre for 1941 off the East Coast of the USA, and in it you’d place lone, unescorted merchants on coastal routes, the odd destroyer or two, and a U-boat.

Happy Hunting!

Art

Hinrich Schwab · 02-15-12, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aanker

Koralle mission editor

In the Koralle folder should be a compressed 14.3 MB folder, Koralle.CAB that can be opened with WinRar etc. Inside that are a lot of files and folders including a Koralle.PDF with detailed instructions.
- - - - - - - -
Kriegstanz scenario generator

For some reason I installed "Kriegstanz" & "KD" that also came with a nice PDF 'how to' for my scenarios. Maybe it was because I used Pacific Aces on top of SH II. I don't remember but KD always worked great for me.

Just throwing that out there as another choice:

"Kriegstanz" & "KD"

Happy Hunting!

Art

I appreciate the help. I already stated that the Koralle manual was not as specific as I expected it to be. It is really a tutorial to clone the prepackaged mission. The big issue I am looking into is objective handling and trigger handling. I am also wanting to "mask" the identification of units so that a contact remains ambiguous even if "Limited Data" is turned off. There appears to be sufficient handling to do this, but the manual confirms nothing.

I already had Kriegstanz in mind for something else, but what I have planned is a re-creation of a historical event, which does require the specific scripting.

aanker · 02-15-12, 07:28 PM

After plugging this string:
"site:subsim.com Koralle objective trigger" into my Google search window I got this Google result page and results:

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Google page results:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site:subsim.com+Koralle+objective+trigger &num=50&hl=en&newwindow=1&client=firefox-a&hs=VT&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&filter=0&biw=1152&bih=773

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Result links:

SDF editing guide (topic has two pages):

http://www.subsim.com/phpBB_archive1/viewtopic.php?p=153944&sid=864dc8cf2202f99ab34f297 765b909fb

http://www.subsim.com/subsim_files/missingxxx.html

http://www.subsim.com/subsim_files/patches_APR05.html

http://www.subsim.com/subsim_files/patches_SH3off.html

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Some of these you need to scroll down to the SH II section or Koralle etc. Some dead links to pages could be plugged into the Internet Archive WayBack Machine:
( http://www.archive.org/ ) as a last resort - might work(?)...

Hope this helps.

Hinrich Schwab · 02-16-12, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aanker

After plugging this string:
"site:subsim.com Koralle objective trigger" into my Google search window I got this Google result page and results:

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Google page results:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site...w=1152&bih=773

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Result links:

SDF editing guide (topic has two pages):

http://www.subsim.com/phpBB_archive1...4f297765b909fb

http://www.subsim.com/subsim_files/missingxxx.html

http://www.subsim.com/subsim_files/patches_APR05.html

http://www.subsim.com/subsim_files/patches_SH3off.html

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Some of these you need to scroll down to the SH II section or Koralle etc. Some dead links to pages could be plugged into the Internet Archive WayBack Machine:
( http://www.archive.org/ ) as a last resort - might work(?)...

Hope this helps.

Thanks.

I will see what I can make of these.

02-12-12, 06:15 AM	#1
Hinrich Schwab Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 908 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	A little late to the modding community I know SH II is older than dirt, at this point, but in the few days I have owned it, I have enjoyed it immensely and want to make my own missions. I dug through the archives and found out about "Koralle", the mission editor. Naturally, all of the links are dead because the parent game is so old. Does anyone have a link or copy of this old program so I can turn myself loose on SH II?

02-12-12, 09:11 AM	#2
Red October1984 Airplane Nerd Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 6,243 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	Yes. I have had some issues with some mods here for download. Like the minefield mod, das boot periscope mod, and the chart station mod. __________________

02-12-12, 04:24 PM	#4
Malefactor Loader Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London, Canada Posts: 88 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I still have a copy. PM me here on the forum and I'll hook you up with Koralle. __________________

02-13-12, 01:14 PM	#6
aanker Pacific Thunder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yellow Sea Posts: 1,896 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 14	I have it too if you are unsuccessful. Happy Hunting! Art __________________ " Bless those who serve beneath the deep, Through lonely hours their vigil keep. May peace their mission ever be, Protect each one we ask of thee. Bless those at home who wait and pray, For their return by night and day."

02-12-12, 03:21 PM	#3
Hinrich Schwab Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 908 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	I don't know about those mods, I am trying to hunt down Koralle, first.

02-15-12, 01:22 AM	#8
Hinrich Schwab Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 908 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Now that I have the tools, I am now looking for guides to help make my missions. The manual in Koralle is not so much a manual as it is a tutorial for how to make the presupplied mission. I looked through the old forum archives, but it is like a needle in a haystack. Suggestions?

02-15-12, 07:28 PM	#11
aanker Pacific Thunder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yellow Sea Posts: 1,896 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 14	After plugging this string: "site:subsim.com Koralle objective trigger" into my Google search window I got this Google result page and results: - - - - - - - - - - - - - Google page results: https://www.google.com/search?q=site:subsim.com+Koralle+objective+trigger &num=50&hl=en&newwindow=1&client=firefox-a&hs=VT&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&filter=0&biw=1152&bih=773 - - - - - - - - - - - - - Result links: SDF editing guide (topic has two pages): http://www.subsim.com/phpBB_archive1/viewtopic.php?p=153944&sid=864dc8cf2202f99ab34f297 765b909fb http://www.subsim.com/subsim_files/missingxxx.html http://www.subsim.com/subsim_files/patches_APR05.html http://www.subsim.com/subsim_files/patches_SH3off.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - Some of these you need to scroll down to the SH II section or Koralle etc. Some dead links to pages could be plugged into the Internet Archive WayBack Machine: ( http://www.archive.org/ ) as a last resort - might work(?)... Hope this helps.