SH5, wtf

Aegrim · 10-25-11, 08:45 AM

Bought SH3 off of steam a few days ago for a fiver, and with a few days off work played it none stop for 3 days while watching the extended version of Das Boot. Decided since i was enjoying it so much, I'd buy SH5 to give it a go.

Now I've looked at the auto targeting thread, but it just turned into a manual targeting discussion. What is this 3 numbered dots crap? Is their any mod that turns it back into the SH3 way of targeting. I never used manual targeting in SH3 as i'm not a fan of trigonometry, and more a fan of the thrill of the hunt, and playing cat and mouse games against destroyers.

Also, i'm surfaced, but none of my watch crew are on the bridge, and the uboat is filling with Co2, even though the hatch is open and i can walk around. What's going on?

It feels like they've picked some aspects of the game that need streamlining, then went and streamlined them too much.

kylania · 10-25-11, 12:30 PM

Welcome to the forums!

Just save and reload to fix the CO2 bug.

As for the AutoTDC thing I believe you're stuck with the numbers thing. Just match up 3 with 3 for example.

Manual targeting doesn't really use a lot of trig, you can eyeball a bunch of it and there are built in devices, like the RAOBF, which you can find out all information about a ship with. Or just setup 90 degree attacks.

Aegrim · 10-26-11, 10:37 AM

Ok, found a video with the lock then unlock method, works perfectly. But doesn't work anywhere near as well as SH3. Was much easier to plan larger volleys if you found a convoy, and the notebook would always tell you the speed, so you could leave them and circle around ahead of them out of visual range and know where they'd be when you need met them.

Aegrim · 10-26-11, 11:00 AM

My watch crew are pretty hardcore, they don't even come inside for diving.

0rpheus · 10-26-11, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Aegrim

My watch crew are pretty hardcore, they don't even come inside for diving.

Try to avoid alt-tabbing and that won't happen. They can hold their breath for ages sometimes

kiwi_2005 · 10-26-11, 12:18 PM

What you need is some mods.

NewUIs_TDC_6_8_0 by the darkwraith - Changes the UI to look like SH3/SH4 or the enhanced SH5

the 3 number dots you mention is disabled with this mod, can be enabled by clicking on one of the buttons inside the map will bring up a window where you have stuff you can enable.

One mod but I don't know which one but I'm sure its 'Open horizons II' or a mod implemented in OHII where you get the SH3 buttons - identify target, target solution etc. Ive never bothered to use the buttons tho as im too use to the auto targeting method which is this:

1. Aim at ship.
2. Press space bar to lock.
3. Press space bar to unlock.
4. Select turn tdc on (in xo box)
5. Press space to lock.
6. Click on ship type in xo box(tanker etc) this will showRM
7. press space bar to unlock.
8. Aim at any part of ship and fire.

Anyways this is my mods list to give you an idea.

Aegrim · 10-26-11, 06:22 PM

Damn that's a lot of mods.

Currently trying to find the carrier after killing 5 AMC ships.

Do carriers launch aircraft to scout areas if they get intel?

I'm thinking i might attack a random merchant ship, and hang around in the area waiting for a plane to show up. Then follow it. Most of the time when i see them near the coast, the scent goes cold as i get out to sea.

kylania · 10-26-11, 07:05 PM

Assuming you're using a stock campaign this post of mine explains where the AMC ships are and where you can find the carrier.

Aegrim · 10-26-11, 09:19 PM

I'd already killed the AMCs thanks.

I was just looking at a way of luring out some of it's planes to track back to it, but I've managed to run into it. Got just into the middle of the destroyers, fired 4 torps at it then dove down to about 100m silently. They all went searching the area in the direction i shot from, but further behind me.

KING111 · 10-27-11, 07:28 AM

Give up m8 the game is S---
I have had it since it came out.
I have installed it and uninstalled it more time than i can remember.
Every time i install it after finding a new mod thinking it will be better.
only to find its the same crap game it was when i got it.
If you want to move up from SH3 take SH5 back to the shop.
And get SH4 with the u-boat add on

Trevally. · 10-27-11, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KING111

Give up m8 the game is S---
I have had it since it came out.

SH5 has a long learning curve and is not a game you can enjoy without some effort

Quote:

I have installed it and uninstalled it more time than i can remember.
Every time i install it after finding a new mod thinking it will be better.
only to find its the same crap game it was when i got it.

Yes - I have seen some of your posts and everytime someone offers to help, you do not reply http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=188885

Quote:

If you want to move up from SH3 take SH5 back to the shop.
And get SH4 with the u-boat add on

Or take some time - ask some questions here and most of the time someone will help you

Aegrim · 10-27-11, 12:09 PM

I'm enjoying the game.

I've noticed ships seem harder to sink, and the health bar is a bit lame.

I think it's easier to sink a ship if you hit it twice in the same spot. But i have seen videos of ships going down from one torp.

Can anyone confirm this?

Trevally. · 10-27-11, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aegrim

I'm enjoying the game.

I've noticed ships seem harder to sink, and the health bar is a bit lame.

I think it's easier to sink a ship if you hit it twice in the same spot. But i have seen videos of ships going down from one torp.

Can anyone confirm this?

you can untick the ship healthbar in game options and it will go away.
To do this - hit esc when you are in the bunker and select options.
Note: you must continue from the bunker for the changes to stick. If you load a save game stright away - you will lose the changes

For sinking ships - yes - you can kill with one hit.
You should try TDWs FX mod. It enables better sinking (flood, fire and time)

kylania · 10-27-11, 12:17 PM

You can turn off the health bars in the Gameplay Options. Remember though, for the campaign you need to set the Gameplay Options IN BUNKER after starting. The stuff you set from the main menu doesn't apply to campaign games.

Usually spreading damage across the waterline of a ship is the most effective method of sinking on. Four little holes everywhere will be better than one big hold somewhere.

Some ships can be taken out with just one torpedo. Sometimes even one will hit and it looks like it won't sink, but it eventually will. For fast moving ships giving them a nice hole in the bow is good so that they end up plowing forward and drinking the sea in!

KING111 · 10-27-11, 05:13 PM

Trevally
The reason I don't reply is because the game is crap
So I put 20 or 25 mods in to the game to try and make in playable
Then I try the single missions and it all looks nice and seems to work
But then I try a campaign and every time the game crashes
I am hoping that one day someone will make a super mod
That will work until that day comes I will be on SH4

10-25-11, 08:45 AM	#1
Aegrim Seaman Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 38 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	SH5, wtf Bought SH3 off of steam a few days ago for a fiver, and with a few days off work played it none stop for 3 days while watching the extended version of Das Boot. Decided since i was enjoying it so much, I'd buy SH5 to give it a go. Now I've looked at the auto targeting thread, but it just turned into a manual targeting discussion. What is this 3 numbered dots crap? Is their any mod that turns it back into the SH3 way of targeting. I never used manual targeting in SH3 as i'm not a fan of trigonometry, and more a fan of the thrill of the hunt, and playing cat and mouse games against destroyers. Also, i'm surfaced, but none of my watch crew are on the bridge, and the uboat is filling with Co2, even though the hatch is open and i can walk around. What's going on? It feels like they've picked some aspects of the game that need streamlining, then went and streamlined them too much.

10-25-11, 12:30 PM	#2
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	Welcome to the forums! Just save and reload to fix the CO2 bug. As for the AutoTDC thing I believe you're stuck with the numbers thing. Just match up 3 with 3 for example. Manual targeting doesn't really use a lot of trig, you can eyeball a bunch of it and there are built in devices, like the RAOBF, which you can find out all information about a ship with. Or just setup 90 degree attacks. __________________

10-26-11, 12:18 PM	#6
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	What you need is some mods. NewUIs_TDC_6_8_0 by the darkwraith - Changes the UI to look like SH3/SH4 or the enhanced SH5 the 3 number dots you mention is disabled with this mod, can be enabled by clicking on one of the buttons inside the map will bring up a window where you have stuff you can enable. One mod but I don't know which one but I'm sure its 'Open horizons II' or a mod implemented in OHII where you get the SH3 buttons - identify target, target solution etc. Ive never bothered to use the buttons tho as im too use to the auto targeting method which is this: 1. Aim at ship. 2. Press space bar to lock. 3. Press space bar to unlock. 4. Select turn tdc on (in xo box) 5. Press space to lock. 6. Click on ship type in xo box(tanker etc) this will showRM 7. press space bar to unlock. 8. Aim at any part of ship and fire. Anyways this is my mods list to give you an idea. __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

10-26-11, 07:05 PM	#8
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	Assuming you're using a stock campaign this post of mine explains where the AMC ships are and where you can find the carrier. __________________

10-27-11, 12:17 PM	#14
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	You can turn off the health bars in the Gameplay Options. Remember though, for the campaign you need to set the Gameplay Options IN BUNKER after starting. The stuff you set from the main menu doesn't apply to campaign games. Usually spreading damage across the waterline of a ship is the most effective method of sinking on. Four little holes everywhere will be better than one big hold somewhere. Some ships can be taken out with just one torpedo. Sometimes even one will hit and it looks like it won't sink, but it eventually will. For fast moving ships giving them a nice hole in the bow is good so that they end up plowing forward and drinking the sea in! __________________

10-26-11, 10:37 AM	#3
Aegrim Seaman Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 38 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Ok, found a video with the lock then unlock method, works perfectly. But doesn't work anywhere near as well as SH3. Was much easier to plan larger volleys if you found a convoy, and the notebook would always tell you the speed, so you could leave them and circle around ahead of them out of visual range and know where they'd be when you need met them.

10-26-11, 11:00 AM	#4
Aegrim Seaman Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 38 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	My watch crew are pretty hardcore, they don't even come inside for diving.

10-26-11, 06:22 PM	#7
Aegrim Seaman Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 38 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Damn that's a lot of mods. Currently trying to find the carrier after killing 5 AMC ships. Do carriers launch aircraft to scout areas if they get intel? I'm thinking i might attack a random merchant ship, and hang around in the area waiting for a plane to show up. Then follow it. Most of the time when i see them near the coast, the scent goes cold as i get out to sea.

10-26-11, 09:19 PM	#9
Aegrim Seaman Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 38 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I'd already killed the AMCs thanks. I was just looking at a way of luring out some of it's planes to track back to it, but I've managed to run into it. Got just into the middle of the destroyers, fired 4 torps at it then dove down to about 100m silently. They all went searching the area in the direction i shot from, but further behind me.

10-27-11, 07:28 AM	#10
KING111 Planesman Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 181 Downloads: 245 Uploads: 0	Give up m8 the game is S--- I have had it since it came out. I have installed it and uninstalled it more time than i can remember. Every time i install it after finding a new mod thinking it will be better. only to find its the same crap game it was when i got it. If you want to move up from SH3 take SH5 back to the shop. And get SH4 with the u-boat add on

10-27-11, 12:09 PM	#12
Aegrim Seaman Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 38 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I'm enjoying the game. I've noticed ships seem harder to sink, and the health bar is a bit lame. I think it's easier to sink a ship if you hit it twice in the same spot. But i have seen videos of ships going down from one torp. Can anyone confirm this?

10-27-11, 05:13 PM	#15
KING111 Planesman Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 181 Downloads: 245 Uploads: 0	Trevally The reason I don't reply is because the game is crap So I put 20 or 25 mods in to the game to try and make in playable Then I try the single missions and it all looks nice and seems to work But then I try a campaign and every time the game crashes I am hoping that one day someone will make a super mod That will work until that day comes I will be on SH4