Questions about TMO 2.0

GoldenRivet · 04-14-11, 04:47 AM

Installed SH4 yesterday and im giving it a shot with TMO 2.0 loaded up

Apparently the depth charges are not historically accurate. It is known historical fact that Japanese depth charges in December 1941... all of 1942, and the first half of 1943 had only two fuse settings.... 100 feet and 200 feet. It was not until the "May Incident" that Japanese intelligence learned the true diving capability of US Subs and from late June 1943 onward the japanese depth charges had 3 settings. 100, 200 and now 300 feet - this was intel that was spread around and exploited by US Sub crews with great success for the first 19 months of the war. would be nice to have that advantage. It wasnt until some time later in 1944 that the Japanese Depth Charges could reach a depth of 480 feet. This represented one of the great military blunders in the history of war (similar in nature to the American torpedo problems) and i feel like there should be modifications to TMO to make the depth charges at least historically accurate. dont get me wrong - im not whining like a baby because i got my sub killed... im whining like a baby because i got my sub killed in a situation in which it would have been impossible for any japanese ship in the entire IJN to attack me.

the main reason i bring it up...

It appears that Thermal Layers are still not simulated in SH4 with pretty much any mod. I just 4 times in a row got my ass totally handed to me by a sub chaser at a depth of 625 ft, silent running, maneuvering the best i could, low RPM/ one knot in 1942 etc etc.

what irks me a bit more is that the sub chaser was several miles away just trolling around his little random area paying me no attention, and why would he? i was sitting on the bottom waiting for nightfall when all of the sudden he makes a Bee Line right toward me and starts DCing the crap out of me - i made no apparent provocation,noise etc and this situation did not make any sense to me.

and my last gripe - which is no doubt NOT TMO's fault - is that the mission at hand (and reason i died 4 times) is to take photo recon of a harbor. there are two ships in the port - both gunboats - i lock, photograph - nothing happens... no matter how many photographs i take, and no matter what i take photos of - the mission will not switch to "complete". I exit the game, reload the mission, go to the port, try to take the photos - same thing... no "complete" after taking pics. I'm not sure what to do except just take the "failed mission" lumps when i get back to port, and hope the next mission isnt a repeat.

so... thoughts on the depth charge settings in TMO?

i REALLY think for the sake of historical accuracy that from12/1941 - 6/1943 the deepest setting should be 200

then from 6/1943 to 6/1944 the deepest setting should be 300

then from 6/1944 - surrender the deepest depth setting should be 480

if this is not something our TMO gang will do - can i get help on doing it myself?

04-14-11, 04:47 AM	#1
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Questions about TMO 2.0 Installed SH4 yesterday and im giving it a shot with TMO 2.0 loaded up Apparently the depth charges are not historically accurate. It is known historical fact that Japanese depth charges in December 1941... all of 1942, and the first half of 1943 had only two fuse settings.... 100 feet and 200 feet. It was not until the "May Incident" that Japanese intelligence learned the true diving capability of US Subs and from late June 1943 onward the japanese depth charges had 3 settings. 100, 200 and now 300 feet - this was intel that was spread around and exploited by US Sub crews with great success for the first 19 months of the war. would be nice to have that advantage. It wasnt until some time later in 1944 that the Japanese Depth Charges could reach a depth of 480 feet. This represented one of the great military blunders in the history of war (similar in nature to the American torpedo problems) and i feel like there should be modifications to TMO to make the depth charges at least historically accurate. dont get me wrong - im not whining like a baby because i got my sub killed... im whining like a baby because i got my sub killed in a situation in which it would have been impossible for any japanese ship in the entire IJN to attack me. the main reason i bring it up... It appears that Thermal Layers are still not simulated in SH4 with pretty much any mod. I just 4 times in a row got my ass totally handed to me by a sub chaser at a depth of 625 ft, silent running, maneuvering the best i could, low RPM/ one knot in 1942 etc etc. what irks me a bit more is that the sub chaser was several miles away just trolling around his little random area paying me no attention, and why would he? i was sitting on the bottom waiting for nightfall when all of the sudden he makes a Bee Line right toward me and starts DCing the crap out of me - i made no apparent provocation,noise etc and this situation did not make any sense to me. and my last gripe - which is no doubt NOT TMO's fault - is that the mission at hand (and reason i died 4 times) is to take photo recon of a harbor. there are two ships in the port - both gunboats - i lock, photograph - nothing happens... no matter how many photographs i take, and no matter what i take photos of - the mission will not switch to "complete". I exit the game, reload the mission, go to the port, try to take the photos - same thing... no "complete" after taking pics. I'm not sure what to do except just take the "failed mission" lumps when i get back to port, and hope the next mission isnt a repeat. so... thoughts on the depth charge settings in TMO? i REALLY think for the sake of historical accuracy that from12/1941 - 6/1943 the deepest setting should be 200 then from 6/1943 to 6/1944 the deepest setting should be 300 then from 6/1944 - surrender the deepest depth setting should be 480 if this is not something our TMO gang will do - can i get help on doing it myself? __________________