A convey with zero protection?

ROMMEL_HSQ · 04-08-11, 04:26 PM

I encountered a convey that after shadowing it, I confirmed it had no escorts, which was fine since early in the war that was common at half the trip. What was weird is that none of the ships had guns on them and after using my torpedoes, i just surfaced and started to shoot them with my Flak.

I ended up sinking 11 ships with 53000 tons.

Now my question is....Is this realistic/historical?? Shouldn't the ships in the convey at least disperse each on a different direction, or thats not possible with the game engine?

I was using GWX 3.0, with some various small mods.

Jimbuna · 04-08-11, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ROMMEL_HSQ

I encountered a convey that after shadowing it, I confirmed it had no escorts, which was fine since early in the war that was common at half the trip. What was weird is that none of the ships had guns on them and after using my torpedoes, i just surfaced and started to shoot them with my Flak.

I ended up sinking 11 ships with 53000 tons.

Now my question is....Is this realistic/historical?? Shouldn't the ships in the convey at least disperse each on a different direction, or thats not possible with the game engine?

I was using GWX 3.0, with some various small mods.

Early in the war some ships formed convoys (of a sort) because they tthought it was safer to be in numbers.

The game engine won't allow ships to scatter....simply commence zig zagging.

Howard313 · 04-08-11, 05:23 PM

Once had a similar thing happen to me, no guns, no escorts, and it wasn't even like a small convoy of 3-4 ships, this was a full sized convoy of about 20 ships or more.

Of course by the time I was done with it, it was a full sized shooting gallery.

frau kaleun · 04-08-11, 06:00 PM

Ah, the early years are the best.

Sometimes no escorts, sometimes just a token escort that is easily dealt with if you can sneak up on the herd after dark.

I hit a convoy out of Freetown once that was chock full of big cargo ships and ore carriers with one sad lonely Black Swan leading the pack. There were a couple of what must have been fairly slow armed merchies or maybe a trawler or something that tried to fire on me when I first surfaced... so I just parked on the opposite of the convoy and they had to fire over their own ships to try and hit me. I think they actually helped me sink a couple.

the_tyrant · 04-08-11, 09:37 PM

Ahh, I love it when something like this happens

Still, play a type ii sub if you like to scream at your computer, 4/5 of your torps are duds, and you have no deck gun

04-09-11, 02:54 AM

Very early war, they were only escorted from 300 miles west of Ireland.

No escorts across the middle of "The Pond".
BUT, the uboats weren't attacking out any farther than that either.

All that changed rather rapidly over time.

desirableroasted · 04-09-11, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

sad lonely Black Swan

Do they come in a "sad, lonely" flavor? Not where I shop!

Fish In The Water · 04-09-11, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by the_tyrant

Still, play a type ii sub if you like to scream at your computer, 4/5 of your torps are duds, and you have no deck gun

Puts a capital C in challenge...

Or is that F in frustration?

frau kaleun · 04-09-11, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by desirableroasted

Do they come in a "sad, lonely" flavor? Not where I shop!

To be fair she was only sad and lonely for a very, very short time... right there in between when the torpedo detonated and the ship sank.

Betonov · 04-09-11, 03:41 PM

I have this image in my head of the Blach Swan movie poster, but instead of Natalie Portman it has a destroyer.

Too bad I suck in photoshop

Missing Name · 04-10-11, 12:08 AM

I don't remember how to use the GIMP anymore...

Betonov · 04-10-11, 04:59 AM

Niiiice

Maybe we should have a contest on this theme

ROMMEL_HSQ · 04-10-11, 05:09 AM

haha

maillemaker · 04-12-11, 04:38 PM

No, it's not realistic. Real life convoys would have dispersed or at least tried to ram.

But in early years I have plundered many a convoy, expending all my torpedoes and deck gun ammo.

Perhaps 3 or 4 times I have wiped out entire convoys single-handedly.

If you can get a Type IX early enough you can really cause some damage.

Steve

Osmium Steele · 04-18-11, 10:23 AM

Recently returned to SH3 after nearly 6 years of "shore duty".

While playing vanilla SH3 toward the end of a patrol, got word of a convoy headed my way.

2 escorts, front and back. Feeling a bit rusty, I decided to make my attack run on the first 2 merchants on the right side of the convoy and evade. Both hit, both sunk.

Only 2 fish left, 1 front, 1 aft.

Just one hour after resuming patrol, Sonar reports numerous merchants seemingly following the first convoy's track.

No warships? Confirmed, no warships.

Commenced my surface attack run at 0230, C2 sunk using both fish and my deck gunner had a field day sinking 4 ships and setting another on fire before expending all ammunition.

Now that I've updated SH3 and loaded GWX gold and SH3 Commander, I've never had two convoys that close together.

04-08-11, 04:26 PM	#1
ROMMEL_HSQ Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 8 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	A convey with zero protection? I encountered a convey that after shadowing it, I confirmed it had no escorts, which was fine since early in the war that was common at half the trip. What was weird is that none of the ships had guns on them and after using my torpedoes, i just surfaced and started to shoot them with my Flak. I ended up sinking 11 ships with 53000 tons. Now my question is....Is this realistic/historical?? Shouldn't the ships in the convey at least disperse each on a different direction, or thats not possible with the game engine? I was using GWX 3.0, with some various small mods.

04-10-11, 12:08 AM	#11
Missing Name Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Westun New Yahk Posts: 748 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	I don't remember how to use the GIMP anymore... __________________ Largest target sunk with deck gun: Japanese auxiliary cruiser, 15000 tons Largest engaged: HMS Nelson. Results inconclusive. Read Brag's stuff

04-08-11, 05:23 PM	#3
Howard313 Engineer Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: America Posts: 211 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	Once had a similar thing happen to me, no guns, no escorts, and it wasn't even like a small convoy of 3-4 ships, this was a full sized convoy of about 20 ships or more. Of course by the time I was done with it, it was a full sized shooting gallery.

04-08-11, 06:00 PM	#4
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	Ah, the early years are the best. Sometimes no escorts, sometimes just a token escort that is easily dealt with if you can sneak up on the herd after dark. I hit a convoy out of Freetown once that was chock full of big cargo ships and ore carriers with one sad lonely Black Swan leading the pack. There were a couple of what must have been fairly slow armed merchies or maybe a trawler or something that tried to fire on me when I first surfaced... so I just parked on the opposite of the convoy and they had to fire over their own ships to try and hit me. I think they actually helped me sink a couple.

04-08-11, 09:37 PM	#5
the_tyrant Admiral Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,272 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	Ahh, I love it when something like this happens Still, play a type ii sub if you like to scream at your computer, 4/5 of your torps are duds, and you have no deck gun

04-09-11, 02:54 AM	#6
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Very early war, they were only escorted from 300 miles west of Ireland. No escorts across the middle of "The Pond". BUT, the uboats weren't attacking out any farther than that either. All that changed rather rapidly over time.

04-09-11, 03:41 PM	#10
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	I have this image in my head of the Blach Swan movie poster, but instead of Natalie Portman it has a destroyer. Too bad I suck in photoshop

04-10-11, 04:59 AM	#12
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Niiiice Maybe we should have a contest on this theme

04-10-11, 05:09 AM	#13
ROMMEL_HSQ Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 8 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	haha

04-12-11, 04:38 PM	#14
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	No, it's not realistic. Real life convoys would have dispersed or at least tried to ram. But in early years I have plundered many a convoy, expending all my torpedoes and deck gun ammo. Perhaps 3 or 4 times I have wiped out entire convoys single-handedly. If you can get a Type IX early enough you can really cause some damage. Steve

04-18-11, 10:23 AM	#15
Osmium Steele Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Upper midwest USA Posts: 1,101 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Recently returned to SH3 after nearly 6 years of "shore duty". While playing vanilla SH3 toward the end of a patrol, got word of a convoy headed my way. 2 escorts, front and back. Feeling a bit rusty, I decided to make my attack run on the first 2 merchants on the right side of the convoy and evade. Both hit, both sunk. Only 2 fish left, 1 front, 1 aft. Just one hour after resuming patrol, Sonar reports numerous merchants seemingly following the first convoy's track. No warships? Confirmed, no warships. Commenced my surface attack run at 0230, C2 sunk using both fish and my deck gunner had a field day sinking 4 ships and setting another on fire before expending all ammunition. Now that I've updated SH3 and loaded GWX gold and SH3 Commander, I've never had two convoys that close together.