Muslim Cleric Plans White House Protest in Attempt to Spread Sharia Law in America

[Gerald]

A Muslim cleric who called Americans “the biggest criminals” during a recent interview has announced he will hold a protest outside the White House, according to the Daily Mail.

Anjem Choudary, who once said “the flag of Islam will fly over the White House,” says he will lead a demonstration rallying Muslims to establish Sharia law across the United States.

Choudary, 43, called Americans “the biggest criminals in the world today” during an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity this month.

Choudary, who is the former leader of the outlawed British-based group Islam4UK, says the March rally at the White House is being organized by the extremist group Islamic Thinkers Society, which is based in New York.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/02/20...ad-sharia-law/


Note: Published February 20, 2011

[Takeda Shingen]

Good luck getting Sharia law through the Supreme Court.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Good luck getting Sharia law through the Supreme Court.

It can be said, without saying too much.

[the_tyrant]

I wonder if anyone will show up?

wait, we should give the Westboro Baptist Church a call

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Good luck getting Sharia law through the Supreme Court.

Haven't had your daily dose of headlines today, it seems:

http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/

And some flavour:

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/fischer/100725

http://www.examiner.com/statehouse-i...ing-to-america

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...in_americ.html

Damn, what am I doing here - you can run Google yourself, can't you. It's full of examples tnat should show you that Sharia in the US will not come with a loud bang by an according rule of the Supreme Court, but by constantly and silently changing the general cultural climate and atmosphere in society, which then feeds back on adminstration and jurisdiction. The Supreme Court will not make a decision on Islam and Sharia, but Islam will enter the Surpreme Court through the backdoor.

The danger to watch out for is neither conquest nor terror, but demography, and silent infiltration.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Haven't had your daily dose of headlines today, it seems:

http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/

And some flavour:

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/fischer/100725

http://www.examiner.com/statehouse-i...ing-to-america

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...in_americ.html

Damn, what am I doing here - you can run Google yourself, can't you. It's full of examples tnat should show you that Sharia in the US will not come with a loud bang by an according rule of the Supreme Court, but by constantly and silently changing the general cultural climate and atmosphere in society, which then feeds back on adminstration and jurisdiction. The Supreme Court will not make a decision on Islam and Sharia, but Islam will enter the Surpreme Court through the backdoor.

The danger to watch out for is neither conquest nor terror, but demography, and silent infiltration.

I see what you are saying, and I am sure you are speaking from experience in Germany. To me, it seems unlikely due to the fact that you would need to completely remove the First Amendment's separation of church and state, and that would not go quietly.

[Penguin]

I'm not sure if I got this right:

This guy wants to travel to a country, which he believes consists of criminals and use the land's freedom of assembly to protest the country's laws which allow him to protest?

Maybe the USA should give in to his to his demands - for a minute.
"OK, we'll abolish our laws here and use islamic juricdiction now! Under these laws your protest is illegal and we are going to chop your head off on the stairs of the White House! Thank you for visiting America!"

[Armistead]

The question is....why give these nuts any attention, just Hannity trying to move us to "code red."

Sharia law coming through the back door, right.......We have a lot of people trying to create a theocracy through government in the US, but it ain't Islam that concerns me, it's nuts like Beck and Palin.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I see what you are saying, and I am sure you are speaking from experience in Germany. To me, it seems unlikely due to the fact that you would need to completely remove the First Amendment's separation of church and state, and that would not go quietly.

That is correct, some similarities of this is found in other Western countries such as Germany.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I see what you are saying, and I am sure you are speaking from experience in Germany. To me, it seems unlikely due to the fact that you would need to completely remove the First Amendment's separation of church and state, and that would not go quietly.

Oh, it's making progress. The magic formula is to combine "human rights" with "defamation", and you have a ticket to bypass major Western obstacles to guard Islamic supremacist claims. Again, the method is not to have the Supreme Court making a rule on Shariah or the first amendement, but to change it by changing the cultural context and climate in which it is embedded and inside which it operates. Then the court and the laws will change "naturally", and all by themselves. Islam knows no separation of relgion and politics, and so can claim constitutional proetction for its political acting by freferring to the constitutional guarantee that free relgious practicing is guaranteed. It drives me mad that this lethal vulnerability of Western constitutions (all of them!) is not getting payed attention to since so many years now, while we see Islamic groups abusing and exploiting this breach to their maximum advantage atime and tiem and time again.

Banning criticism as "discrimination", "racism" and "defamation" works wonders already here in Europe! Here, criticising Islam now is a punishable crime, and in over half a dozen countries there are currently court cases proceeding against journalists and politicians of the moderate and reasonable kind (no extremists at all), who raised valid questions on Islam and referred to Islamic scripture. It is censorship, and self-limitation of our freedom to think, and our freedom to speak.

I read that the US prepares a law that would make any publication of government secret documents and any revealing of such documents to investigative journalists a punishable crime. That would mean the end to and investigative journalism deserving the name, and would move the government outside any indepedent research done by journalists. That this is pushed forward since Cablegate should tell you that in America you maybe are not as safe from more crippling of your freedom of speech and free press, than you think. And this after procedural changes ordered by the WH already have had a crippling effect on the quality of critical and independent journalistic work in recent years.

Be on your guard. You've been warned. Don't do like we do over here. Laws they cannot smash their heads frontally through, they still can evade, orf dig their way beneath them, hollowing them out whuile turning them against you. That is what is happening in Europe. America sees the same process, just some years lagging behind.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Here, criticising Islam now is a punishable crime, and in over half a dozen countries there are currently court cases proceeding against journalists and politicians of the moderate and reasonable kind (no extremists at all), who raised valid questions on Islam and referred to Islamic scripture. It is censorship, and self-limitation of our freedom to think, and our freedom to speak.

And let me guess, no such laws against critisizing christianity.
Don't get me wrong, I made an art form out of mocking christianity, but still it's wrong, whats with all the privilege.
I'm liberal but this is too much

[the_tyrant]

Have faith in the Melting pot!
If the temptations of capitalist america is enough to tempt Christian children to porn and booze I'm sure it will do the same to second generation Muslims!

If you think about it though, western society was dictated by Christian morals until people like Gene Simmons and Marilyn Manson came along.
I'm pretty sure Muslim morality will never take hold in the western world, much less western courts

[MH]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

Have faith in the Melting pot!............

It seems that Europe is losing faith in the melting pot and maybe will try more balanced approach.

Remember the David Cameron speech and Chancellor Angela Merkel's.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

If you think about it though, western society was dictated by Christian morals until people like Gene Simmons and Marilyn Manson came along.

Not really. Nietzsche, Goethe, Dostoevsky, Shakespeare, T. S. Eliot, Wagner, Mozart, Schopenhauer, Richard Strauss and Voltaire all wrote some pretty seditious stuff that makes Gene Simmons and Marilyn Manson look pretty tame by comparison. And have you ever read any Carmina Burana? Some pretty racy stuff, that.

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by MH

It seems that Europe is losing faith in the melting pot and maybe will try more balanced approach.

Remember the David Cameron speech and Chancellor Angela Merkel's.

Well except melting them and appeasing them, I can't think of any other method
From my own observations I'm pretty sure Muslims have a lot of kids. Well after long enough, if democratic elections continue, we shall be represented by Muslims!
But than who knows, quite a large percentage of second generation Muslims have already embraced beer and porn (from my personal observation). Probably their kids will stop going to mosque

Not really. Nietzsche, Goethe, Dostoevsky, Shakespeare, T. S. Eliot, Wagner, Mozart, Schopenhauer, Richard Strauss and Voltaire all wrote some pretty seditious stuff that makes Gene Simmons and Marilyn Manson look pretty tame by comparison. And have you ever read any Carmina Burana? Some pretty racy stuff, that.

Mozart, yeah well he's not the most politically correct composer.
But Wagner and Strauss