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Old 12-12-10, 06:40 PM   #1
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Default Anti-animal crushing law

I think this is a law pretty much everyone can agree on.

The Prevention of Interstate Commerce in Animal Crush Videos Act of 2010, was signed into law on 9 Dec 10. Public Law 111-294.

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Animal Crush Video Prohibition Act of 2010 - Amends the federal criminal code to revise the prohibition against depictions of animal cruelty to prohibit anyone from knowingly creating an animal crush video, or attempting or conspiring to do so, if:
(1) such person intends or has reason to know that such video will be distributed in, or using a means or facility of, interstate or foreign commerce; or
(2) such video is distributed in, or using a means or facility of, interstate or foreign commerce. Prohibits the sale, marketing, exchange, or distribution of such videos in interstate or foreign commerce, or any attempt or conspiracy to do so. Defines "animal crush video" as any photograph, motion picture, film, video or digital recording, or electronic image that:
(1) depicts actual conduct in which one or more living non-human mammals, birds, reptiles, or amphibians intentionally crushed, burned, drowned, suffocated, impaled, or otherwise subjected to serious bodily injury; and
(2) is obscene. Extends the applicability of this Act to a person selling, marketing, advertising, exchanging, distributing, or creating animal crush videos outside the United States if:
(1) such person intends or has reason to know that the animal crush video will be transported into the United States or its territories or possessions; or
(2) the video is so transported. Imposes a fine and/or prison term of up to seven years for violations of this Act. Exempts from the application of this Act:
(1) any visual depiction of customary and normal veterinary or agricultural husbandry practices, the slaughter of animals for food, or hunting, trapping, or fishing; and
(2) good faith distribution of an animal crush video to a law enforcement agency or a third party for the sole purpose of determining if referral to a law enforcement agency is appropriate
For those not familiar, there is a pornographic business that consists of filming women (mostly) stomping and crushing small animals to death as a form of sexual entertainment.

I am probably more kinky that most here on this site and I have a great respect for other people's kinks. But freedom of kink must have limits.

The non-consensual involvement of animals and the senseless and cruel torturing and killing of animals for sexual gratification should not be allowed. While this law does not address the terrible actions themselves, by restricting the interstate sale of videos/graphic depictions, we can start to mitigate the financial portion of this gruesome business.

Personally, I felt bad that the 1999 law was declared unconstitutional. But I understood the courts decision. This new law is a start. And a good start.
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Old 12-12-10, 07:00 PM   #2
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Holy blazing crawdads... I thought it had to do with the poultry industry (the practice of grinding up live chicks for feed).
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Old 12-12-10, 07:02 PM   #3
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Wait, people get turn on by that?

or is it the japanese porn companies that are based in the us to avoid the japanese censorship laws
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Old 12-12-10, 08:47 PM   #4
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Wait, people get turn on by that?
No kidding
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Old 12-12-10, 09:16 PM   #5
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Think of any activity or any object. Some where there is a person who "likes" it.
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Old 12-12-10, 11:06 PM   #6
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"Dude! That's ****** up right there!" /southpark

Hunting can be fun, but getting your danglies all sweaty over chicks squishing puppies and kittens (as examples I've heard of before) with their feet is just wrong on so many levels I can't even begin to list them here.
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I'm quite shocked myself!

I'd believe anyone that derives a 'Sex kick' out of stomping animals to death, (Large or small)
is a potential serial killer.
AKA Jeffery Dahmer.
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Reading through the text of the law raises one question: How I interpret it it seems that the making of those vids for your "private entertainment" is still legal?
I hope that state laws concerning animal cruelty come into play then...

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The non-consensual involvement
This is all that is needed to be written into a law. No consent = no kink but sick.
(Note, so that nobody twists my words: consent needs a certain degree of maturity!)

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Personally, I felt bad that the 1999 law was declared unconstitutional. But I understood the courts decision. This new law is a start. And a good start.
Do you have a link to this law?
I will try to read it, but the juristic language is not always easy to understand, I think many native speakers feel the same.
No wonder that every second american is a lawyer - and the other half is in prison
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Old 12-12-10, 07:22 PM   #9
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Reading through the text of the law raises one question: How I interpret it it seems that the making of those vids for your "private entertainment" is still legal?
I hope that state laws concerning animal cruelty come into play then...
That is correct. Federal law can usually only apply to interstate actions. Under this federal law, making the videos and keeping it or selling it to someone in your state would not be illegal (note this does not mean it would be legal).

It would be up to the individual states to pass their own laws, which would only apply to intra-state actions.



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This is all that is needed to be written into a law. No consent = no kink but sick.
(Note, so that nobody twists my words: consent needs a certain degree of maturity!)

The word you are looking for is witting. Witting consent is what is needed.



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Do you have a link to this law?
The Supreme Court case is United States v. Stevens It should be noted that the Stevens case involved filming dog fighting and not animal crushing.

The federal law that was declared unconstitutional was 18 U. S. C. section 48. I can understand why it was declared unconstitutional. It was a poorly written law.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode18/...8----000-.html

My personal position: Killing animals for food, skins/fur, medical purposes, legal purposes should be acceptable. But the killing or torturing of animals strictly for entertainment purposes should not be allowed. But that's just my opinion.
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They should amend the law so that any guy who is found buying one of these videos gets his nuts crushed too. By a sledgehammer. Wrapped in barbed wire. Coated in battery acid.
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They should amend the law so that any guy who is found buying one of these videos gets his nuts crushed too. By a sledgehammer. Wrapped in barbed wire. Coated in battery acid.

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They should amend the law so that any guy who is found buying one of these videos gets his nuts crushed too. By a sledgehammer. Wrapped in barbed wire. Coated in battery acid.
Far too lenient...
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