History/Realism Question.

Paulie76 · 11-14-10, 02:15 PM

In the wider area of the channel, with 37 meters under keel. Blue the speed estimate on a Tramp steamer and ended up hitting her on the forward hull rather than beneath the engine.

Cursed myself, surfaced with the intent to finish her off with the deck gun, only to told by my sissy watch officer that the seas were too rough. Moot point though since I could see her starting to list...she was going down, but she was taking a long time to do it.

Watching her go down, I strayed too close and in her last dying moments she had the audacity to turn her search beams on me! Picked me out dead to rights. She had more than enough time before going down to radio my position, so now how much trouble am I in?

Is the AI smart enough (and realistic enough) to send out ships from Portsmouth and Cherbourg to intercept me? Or am I pretty safe? Suffice it to say I'm pretty dang paranoid at the moment.

Jimbuna · 11-14-10, 02:24 PM

The game engine will throw an imaginary dice and decide if the radio message was received successfully, what assets are within range of you etc.

11-14-10, 03:47 PM

Your in the Channel!

What year?

What's the first rule about the Channel?

Paulie76 · 11-14-10, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

Your in the Channel!

What year?

What's the first rule about the Channel?

Uh...never attack ships in the channel?

It's early in the War, though. October 7th, 1939. So I'm hoping I got a bit of breathing room before they really get their act together.

Jimbuna · 11-14-10, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

Your in the Channel!

What year?

What's the first rule about the Channel?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulie76

Uh...never attack ships in the channel?

It's early in the War, though. October 7th, 1939. So I'm hoping I got a bit of breathing room before they really get their act together.

STAY OUT OF THE CHANNEL!!

Yoriyn · 11-14-10, 04:25 PM

Heh.. I read somewhere on subsim forum in Silent Hunter 5 section about guy who finish SH5 campaign with score about 3,500,000 tons. Thats realistic

11-14-10, 04:26 PM

desirableroasted put it best.

"Stay out of the Channel, unless ordered there. If you simply must use it, because of low fuel, for example, think of it as dark, thug-filled alley in a strange city and act accordingly. If you just glance at someone wrong in the Channel, you will attract more trouble than you can ever deal with."

Capt. Morgan · 11-14-10, 04:30 PM

IIRC, if the game decides to send enemies your way, it will send anything that is within 30 minutes of your location. For destroyers, that's about 15 nautical miles away. For aircraft it's a lot more.

Fortunately Portsmouth and Cherbourg are too far away, but you should expect company. Good thing the weather is bad, the planes will have a hard time spotting you.

You can hear farther than you can see, so I would suggest leaving at full speed on the surface, with frequent hydrophone checks to keep clear of any contacts... and heed the words of desirableroasted as quoted above.

With a little luck, you'll survive.

11-14-10, 05:08 PM

If you have the fuel?
Head for the Atlantic to go home.
You won't like the Straits!

Rhodes · 11-14-10, 06:32 PM

I prefer face a firing squad that go to channel, even if ordered...

Sailor Steve · 11-14-10, 07:19 PM

Why was the speed estimate blue? Isn't red better?

K-61 · 11-14-10, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Why was the speed estimate blue? Isn't red better?

Ewe beet me too it.

Paulie76 · 11-14-10, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Why was the speed estimate blue? Isn't red better?

Hahaha! took me a couple of seconds to realize what the heck you were referring too. Normally my spelling is a lot better. I swear!

Sailor Steve · 11-14-10, 07:48 PM

I swear sometimes too, but that's another story.

I must agree with the others. The only time I ever go through The Channel is when I start a career in August 1939. It's a leisurely trip out, and I take the long way around coming home, and every time after that. Even with the nastiest mods it's still easier than it was in real life, but it's really not worth it. It's called the English Channel for a reason.

Missing Name · 11-14-10, 08:08 PM

I flat-out refuse to go any further into the Channel than an imaginary line drawn directly north from Brest. And that is REALLY pushing it.

11-14-10, 02:15 PM	#1
Paulie76 Seaman Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 35 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	History/Realism Question. In the wider area of the channel, with 37 meters under keel. Blue the speed estimate on a Tramp steamer and ended up hitting her on the forward hull rather than beneath the engine. Cursed myself, surfaced with the intent to finish her off with the deck gun, only to told by my sissy watch officer that the seas were too rough. Moot point though since I could see her starting to list...she was going down, but she was taking a long time to do it. Watching her go down, I strayed too close and in her last dying moments she had the audacity to turn her search beams on me! Picked me out dead to rights. She had more than enough time before going down to radio my position, so now how much trouble am I in? Is the AI smart enough (and realistic enough) to send out ships from Portsmouth and Cherbourg to intercept me? Or am I pretty safe? Suffice it to say I'm pretty dang paranoid at the moment.

11-14-10, 02:24 PM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The game engine will throw an imaginary dice and decide if the radio message was received successfully, what assets are within range of you etc. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

11-14-10, 04:25 PM	#6
Yoriyn Planesman Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Control room Posts: 181 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	Heh.. I read somewhere on subsim forum in Silent Hunter 5 section about guy who finish SH5 campaign with score about 3,500,000 tons. Thats realistic __________________ Oblt.zS. Kurt Hanke, commander of U-83 (Type VIIB) in WaW 5. Patrol 1 - at sea : 5 ships - 10095 BRT My filefront mods link To Battle Station order mod for SH3 and more

11-14-10, 04:30 PM	#8
Capt. Morgan Commander Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Just east of the west coast. Posts: 463 Downloads: 423 Uploads: 0	IIRC, if the game decides to send enemies your way, it will send anything that is within 30 minutes of your location. For destroyers, that's about 15 nautical miles away. For aircraft it's a lot more. Fortunately Portsmouth and Cherbourg are too far away, but you should expect company. Good thing the weather is bad, the planes will have a hard time spotting you. You can hear farther than you can see, so I would suggest leaving at full speed on the surface, with frequent hydrophone checks to keep clear of any contacts... and heed the words of desirableroasted as quoted above. With a little luck, you'll survive. __________________ There are no great men, only great challenges that ordinary men are forced by circumstances to meet. -- Admiral William Halsey

11-14-10, 06:32 PM	#10
Rhodes Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Figueira da Foz, Portugal Posts: 4,516 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	I prefer face a firing squad that go to channel, even if ordered... __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/16416646@N05/

11-14-10, 03:47 PM	#3
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Your in the Channel! What year? What's the first rule about the Channel?

11-14-10, 04:26 PM	#7
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	desirableroasted put it best. "Stay out of the Channel, unless ordered there. If you simply must use it, because of low fuel, for example, think of it as dark, thug-filled alley in a strange city and act accordingly. If you just glance at someone wrong in the Channel, you will attract more trouble than you can ever deal with."

11-14-10, 05:08 PM	#9
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	If you have the fuel? Head for the Atlantic to go home. You won't like the Straits!

11-14-10, 07:19 PM	#11
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Why was the speed estimate blue? Isn't red better? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

11-14-10, 07:48 PM	#14
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I swear sometimes too, but that's another story. I must agree with the others. The only time I ever go through The Channel is when I start a career in August 1939. It's a leisurely trip out, and I take the long way around coming home, and every time after that. Even with the nastiest mods it's still easier than it was in real life, but it's really not worth it. It's called the English Channel for a reason. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

11-14-10, 08:08 PM	#15
Missing Name Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Westun New Yahk Posts: 748 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	I flat-out refuse to go any further into the Channel than an imaginary line drawn directly north from Brest. And that is REALLY pushing it. __________________ Largest target sunk with deck gun: Japanese auxiliary cruiser, 15000 tons Largest engaged: HMS Nelson. Results inconclusive. Read Brag's stuff