Chance of an Expansion?

sk065 · 11-01-10, 01:44 PM

Ahoy!

I havent been on the forums since the release of SH 5.

I decided not to buy it because of the DRM and the campaign finishing at 43.

My question is, are the devs still ironing out the bugs and/or making an expansion to add in the left out boats and years?

Thanks

S!

Takeda Shingen · 11-01-10, 01:50 PM

Chances of expansion and further development are zero. The Dev Team has been moved on to other projects.

sk065 · 11-01-10, 02:02 PM

Thats sad to hear. I guess thats the end of sub simulation genre then. Ubi messed up big time

the_tyrant · 11-01-10, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sk065

Thats sad to hear. I guess thats the end of sub simulation genre then. Ubi messed up big time

Wait for the reboot in a few years!
now with hot chicks in your crew!

Bubblehead1980 · 11-01-10, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Chances of expansion and further development are zero. The Dev Team has been moved on to other projects.

That is just disgusting...

Pintea · 11-08-10, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Chances of expansion and further development are zero. The Dev Team has been moved on to other projects.

Even if the dev team hadn't been moved (or left Ubi) and they were still working on it, the game code has reached a level of complexity and depth (and bad writing and hacking) that I don't think any dev can fully grasp.

This leads to the almost impossible task of adding new features (or even fixing bugs !) without generating a few other bugs without knowing !
This is one of the reason the game has so many bugs today.

Without a clean start, no qualitative add-on or sequel would be possible in my opinion. But then again, a clean start would require much more time and resources than Ubi would be willing to allocate for such a niche game.
So even if an add-on will be made, expect a hurried up hacked buggy game.

dcb · 11-08-10, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pintea

So even if an add-on will be made, expect a hurried up hacked buggy game.

Coming from you, this really sounds like the epitaph of the series, a confirmation that there's nothing to expect in the future from UBI.

Thanks for everything you devs have done and sorry you weren't able/allowed to do more.

SkyBaron · 11-08-10, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pintea

Even if the dev team hadn't been moved (or left Ubi) and they were still working on it, the game code has reached a level of complexity and depth (and bad writing and hacking) that I don't think any dev can fully grasp.

This leads to the almost impossible task of adding new features (or even fixing bugs !) without generating a few other bugs without knowing !
This is one of the reason the game has so many bugs today.

Without a clean start, no qualitative add-on or sequel would be possible in my opinion. But then again, a clean start would require much more time and resources than Ubi would be willing to allocate for such a niche game.
So even if an add-on will be made, expect a hurried up hacked buggy game.

Best post of this thread so far! Agree 100%.

janh · 11-08-10, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintea

Even if the dev team hadn't been moved (or left Ubi) and they were still working on it, the game code has reached a level of complexity and depth (and bad writing and hacking) that I don't think any dev can fully grasp.

This leads to the almost impossible task of adding new features (or even fixing bugs !) without generating a few other bugs without knowing !
This is one of the reason the game has so many bugs today.

Without a clean start, no qualitative add-on or sequel would be possible in my opinion. But then again, a clean start would require much more time and resources than Ubi would be willing to allocate for such a niche game.
So even if an add-on will be made, expect a hurried up hacked buggy game.

I would suggest to leave such kind of assessments to the people who really know the game engine and the source code... It is pointless to discuss something you don't know, or did you ever see it?

THE_MASK · 11-08-10, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by janh

I would suggest to leave such kind of assessments to the people who really know the game engine and the source code... It is pointless to discuss something you don't know, or did you ever see it?

This person is a dev .

11-08-10, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sober

This person is a dev .

Didn't read what was posted did He?

Ducimus · 11-08-10, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by janh

I would suggest to leave such kind of assessments to the people who really know the game engine and the source code... It is pointless to discuss something you don't know, or did you ever see it?

Aside from sober's statement, most anyone in IT that is involved with a product that is continually being developed and refined over the period of years, could tell you nearly the same thing.

Development is done by many people, and people leave for one reason or another. With their departure, someone has to come in behind them at some point and figure out what was done. When it was a year or two after that programmer has left, it becomes a bit harder to figure out, and not every programmer thinks, codes, or comments the same way. The older it is, the more people have worked on it, the more muddled it becomes.

Whats really interesting is when something works, and nobody can figure out why, but they do know is if they change something, it breaks.

Grayghost59 · 11-01-10, 02:49 PM

If we the customers contact them by e-mail, snail mail and by phone, that should show them that profit is in this market. Money always talks louder.

Yosarian · 11-01-10, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Grayghost59

If we the customers contact them by e-mail, snail mail and by phone, that should show them that profit is in this market. Money always talks louder.

For a game publisher profit starts not until 150.000 sold copies.

Ducimus · 11-01-10, 05:56 PM

I think you'll be lucky to see a patch, let alone an expansion.

11-01-10, 01:44 PM	#1
sk065 Bosun Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 62 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Chance of an Expansion? Ahoy! I havent been on the forums since the release of SH 5. I decided not to buy it because of the DRM and the campaign finishing at 43. My question is, are the devs still ironing out the bugs and/or making an expansion to add in the left out boats and years? Thanks S!

11-01-10, 02:49 PM	#13
Grayghost59 Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 14 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	Expansion If we the customers contact them by e-mail, snail mail and by phone, that should show them that profit is in this market. Money always talks louder.

11-01-10, 01:50 PM	#2
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Chances of expansion and further development are zero. The Dev Team has been moved on to other projects.

11-01-10, 02:02 PM	#3
sk065 Bosun Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 62 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Thats sad to hear. I guess thats the end of sub simulation genre then. Ubi messed up big time

11-01-10, 05:56 PM	#15
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I think you'll be lucky to see a patch, let alone an expansion.