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In a recent news feed it appears that at least for the time being the oil leak has been capped.
The 'top kill' was sucessfull. Obama was on the networks within hours to claim credit ![]()
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Well if it was his idea, why did he take so bloody long to come up with it?
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According to Obama BP is under the fed's direction.
Furthermore its all BP's fault... ![]()
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WEll the rig was Transocean's and the BOP Halliburton's then they do bear a lot of the blame to. I think this has turned into an opportunity to get BP out of the US market.
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the bigger problem is more how this affects offshore drilling in the long run.
There was the assumption, probably naive on all our parts, that yes, big Oil companies like BP were gouging us, but at least they knew what they were doing. Now it seems pretty clear that they are pulling a high wire act without a net. This type of accident is bound to happen more regularly has Oil exploration goes deeper and deeper to find new Oil reserves.
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Too early to make the final call. In 48 hours they say they can tell for sure. The work continues. Cautious optimism is the parole of the moment. It still can go terribly wrong.
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![]() ![]() No, really. I do. ![]() I honestly don't know why or how they put up with the **** government and the press keeps giving them, but I'm glad they do. In other news, I don't understand why this oil spill is such a big deal. Didn't the Germans sink like, 30 tankers in the Gulf during WW2? ![]() Yeah, they were smaller than modern tankers, but combined they certainly spilled more oil than this rig has. And yet, the Gulf is fine. There's so much marine wildlife in the Gulf that people get their jollies bitching about motorboats running over manatees. The Mississipi dumps billions of gallons of effluent, soil, and agricultural runoff into the Gulf every year, and yet, the Gulf is fine. It's teeming with life. The biggest problems it has aren't with pollutants, but rather with all the dirt that the Mississipi dumps into the delta. Good ol' Mother Nature personally oversaw that one. I guess she's not an activist. ![]() BP is doing everything they can do to fix this mess and they are doing it in a timely and effective fashion. They're certainly doing more than any activists are. In the meantime there were millions of dollars' worth of crushed BP stock for the taking that could be put to good use by people who supposedly mean well. Did the activists utililize it? Hell no! They're too busy bitching about **** they have no control over and have no understanding of. Some guy who knew what the hell he was talking about once said "The environment is far too important to be left to environmentalists." He was right. Speaking of which.... Quote:
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You know it seems to me like BP has been doing an admirable job given the circumstances.
They have poneyd up to a ton of small clams as well as bigger ones. Payed for and helped to run containment and attempts to quell the gusher. Now hopefully they have managed to stem the flow. In the meantime all offshore drilling is to come to an immediate halt, throw a four fold tax increase on 'oil' on top of things. I forsee $8.00 a gallon gas in the near future. Meanwhile the adminstration will 'keep a boot on the throat' of BP.
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The "Tax Increase" is for the next time some bozo decides to not play safe with his rig and ruins fishermen's and tourism owner's lives.
What if next time its not BP but a smaller company that cant pay out the ass like BP has done and will do? They go bankrupt and a few people profit and the gov pays the tab afterwards. That BULL**** The tax will try to keep that from happening. What this has really done tho is put into the spotlight the "Geologic Oil" theory. I used to believe in peak oil until I saw the speculators at play. If we have 500+ years of oil down there and people knew about it. Oil prices would crash overnight... |
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Zachstar - the only problem with that theory is that the tax gets pushed onto the consumer - meaning we the public end up paying for it. Of course - the government is just "insuring" they can pay for it next time right? And when its needed the money will be sitting there waiting - just like it is from road and gas taxes, social security, etc... oh wait a minute....
This is just another excuse to raise government revenue without a care in the world for what it does to the guy on the street.
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Speculation does FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR more to raise prices than the puny tax on oil.
Last year they used us (The left) like suckers to spread the "Peak Oil" theory to get the public scared and let them jack up the prices. Instead we ought to have looked at the real issue "Peak Refine" People were stockpiling gas at one point during the raise and that push refineries to the limits. Our aging refineries wont last 500+ years but because of the peak oil theory building a new refinery sounds silly and thus they get to keep gas prices higher. There are lots of ideas now how to build smaller regional refineries even some to generate more of the badly needed diesel fuel so we can start driving more efficiently. Taxes have zero to do with it. |
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