[REQ]Improving framerates in the Control Room?

The General · 03-21-10, 07:44 AM

Am I right in thinking that when you come down the ladder into the Control-room, the virtual 3D world is now only showing you the inside of the conning tower, the Control-room, and the compartments immedietly forward and aft? Or, is the whole Sub interior now being displayed? Am I also right in thinking, that when you're in the Control-room, the exterior world is now only held in memory, thus freeing up your 3D card?

If this is in fact the case, then the aft compartments are not visible until you make your way around the Attack Periscope Shaft in the Control-room, do they need to be generated until you make your way around that shaft? When you do, this of course obscures the forward compartments and in turn they can be switched off.

In summation: Is stuff in SH5 being displayed that doesn't need to be and bogging down the system when you're in the Control-room, or in the Sub Penns for example?

03-21-10, 07:52 AM

I think the engine is rendering things that aren't on screen.
But I don't know how they could fix it.

Dowly · 03-21-10, 07:56 AM

AFAIK, the interior is part of the uboat's 3d model, so yes, it would be rendered even if you don't see it... I think.

The General · 03-21-10, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Barso

I think the engine is rendering things that aren't on screen.
But I don't know how they could fix it.

In SH3 & 4, there was either the exterior or interior being displayed, not both. That's why framerates inside the Sub skyrocketed, becuase there were far fewer polygons to shift about.

In SH5, because of the smoother transition between the exterior and interior, I think the Devs have attached the inside of the Conning Tower to the exterior model of the sub.....

Um, clearly I don't understand how this stuff works, can anybody help explain?

03-21-10, 05:42 PM

That's exactly what's happening but how could it be fixed?

piri_reis · 03-21-10, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The General

Anybody?

Since having a measly(!) nvidia 9800GTX+ , I've made a habit of shutting the hatches when I go into the CR, helps a lot with the frame rates.

TurboButton · 03-21-10, 06:42 PM

If you close the hatches on either side of the control room the framerate increases

03-21-10, 06:51 PM

Why doesn't the game just automatically close them behind us then?
Is there a reason for them to stay open?

The General · 03-21-10, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by piri_reis

Since having a measly(!) nvidia 9800GTX+ , I've made a habit of shutting the hatches when I go into the CR, helps a lot with the frame rates.

You think you've got problems?! I'm running a 8500GT and I think smoke is coming out of it

I am having a blast though. With the Mods I've got SH5 is incredibly immersive.

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Originally Posted by Barso

Why doesn't the game just automatically close them behind us then?
Is there a reason for them to stay open?

Tell me about it?! I hope someone manages a mod soon that closes all hatches and lowers all persiscopes upon start-up

ERPP8 · 03-21-10, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The General

Anybody?

In SHIII and SHIV the outside and inside were separate.
Now they're continuous.

The General · 03-21-10, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ERPP8

In SHIII and SHIV the outside and inside were separate.
Now they're continuous.

What am I, talkin' to myself!? I already said that in the very first Post. I'm looking for an explaination of how the Graphics engine achieves this 'Continuation'.

cothyso · 03-21-10, 08:04 PM

the transition is made through portals applied to bottlenecks. the portals are a special sort of magic "windows" telling the engine to render only the part of the room you are seeing through them.

but that doesn't explain the VERY LOW fps from the control room. I think is something related with poly count, no LODs and shaders.

Pintea · 03-22-10, 05:07 AM

Will be fixed. soon.

The General · 03-22-10, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pintea

Will be fixed. soon.

YEAH BABY!!

cothyso · 03-22-10, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Pintea

Will be fixed. soon.

cat de curand, pintea? patch oficial, sau mod?

03-21-10, 07:44 AM	#1
The General The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mountain Ash, Wales, U.K. Posts: 1,548 Downloads: 179 Uploads: 3	[REQ]Improving framerates in the Control Room? Am I right in thinking that when you come down the ladder into the Control-room, the virtual 3D world is now only showing you the inside of the conning tower, the Control-room, and the compartments immedietly forward and aft? Or, is the whole Sub interior now being displayed? Am I also right in thinking, that when you're in the Control-room, the exterior world is now only held in memory, thus freeing up your 3D card? If this is in fact the case, then the aft compartments are not visible until you make your way around the Attack Periscope Shaft in the Control-room, do they need to be generated until you make your way around that shaft? When you do, this of course obscures the forward compartments and in turn they can be switched off. In summation: Is stuff in SH5 being displayed that doesn't need to be and bogging down the system when you're in the Control-room, or in the Sub Penns for example? __________________ *THE GENERAL* Last edited by The General; 03-21-10 at 08:07 AM.

03-21-10, 07:52 AM	#2
Barso Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I think the engine is rendering things that aren't on screen. But I don't know how they could fix it.

03-21-10, 07:56 AM	#3
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	AFAIK, the interior is part of the uboat's 3d model, so yes, it would be rendered even if you don't see it... I think.

03-21-10, 05:42 PM	#5
Barso Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	That's exactly what's happening but how could it be fixed?

03-21-10, 06:42 PM	#7
TurboButton Nub Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	If you close the hatches on either side of the control room the framerate increases

03-21-10, 06:51 PM	#8
Barso Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Why doesn't the game just automatically close them behind us then? Is there a reason for them to stay open?

03-21-10, 08:04 PM	#12
cothyso Sailor man Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 50 Downloads: 169 Uploads: 0	the transition is made through portals applied to bottlenecks. the portals are a special sort of magic "windows" telling the engine to render only the part of the room you are seeing through them. but that doesn't explain the VERY LOW fps from the control room. I think is something related with poly count, no LODs and shaders.

03-22-10, 05:07 AM	#13
Pintea Sparky Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 152 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Will be fixed. soon.