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Old 02-04-10, 09:34 AM   #1
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The Press Blasts Ubisoft!

IT IS MUCH WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT:
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Why Ubisoft DRM for Assassin's Creed 2 has outraged gamers / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/p/46855/350422.aspx

PC Gamer Blog: Constant net connection required to play Assassin's Creed 2 on PC - PC Gamer Magazine


Here are some links to what the experts say about Ubisoft's DRM/OSP


Ubisoft touts games drm - The Inquirer
Ubisoft's new DRM solution: you have be online to play

New Ubisoft DRM requires Internet connection - The Tech Report

Ubisoft Goes DRM-Free for Old Games

The Escapist : Experienced Points: Activation Bomb

http://www.computerandvideogames.com...35596&site=pcg


Game Developers Skeptical About Ubisoft’s New DRM | TorrentFreak
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Another annoying thing is the need to be hooked to internet to play SH5. The preview copy would freeze if the internet connection was lost, and to launch the game, I had to logon to Ubisoft services first!
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Old 02-04-10, 09:42 AM   #2
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Ubi is taking broadsides. I hope some are hitting below the waterline.
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Old 02-04-10, 09:45 AM   #3
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nice...but i do not understand, that low quality games, with lots of bugs in it, are not beeing mentioned. and these buggy games, with bad support, are one of ubis greatest problems. not the drm is...
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Old 02-04-10, 09:47 AM   #4
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Well said, Letum.
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Old 02-04-10, 09:50 AM   #5
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its interesting that the ubisoft spokesman tells how wonderful everything will be - but i want to store my saved games on my computer. i will not be accessing the game from a 100 different ones - or playing online. it is my game, played by me.

they all sound like politicians accentuating a particular kind of positive, but who's positive is it, their's or ours?
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Old 02-04-10, 10:33 AM   #6
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its interesting that the ubisoft spokesman tells how wonderful everything will be - but i want to store my saved games on my computer. i will not be accessing the game from a 100 different ones - or playing online. it is my game, played by me.

they all sound like politicians accentuating a particular kind of positive, but who's positive is it, their's or ours?
Propanda. Ubi think they will get away with it just because they let people install it on unlimited number of PC's and that there will be no on-disc DRM. Someone just shot themselves in the foot. Who the hell wants a game that's gonna pause everytime the players connection drops below required speed or just disconnects. LOL... like watching a movie with the unfriendly neighbour sitting with the remotecontrol :P
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Old 02-04-10, 10:49 AM   #7
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fanny-tastic. The more wind blows into UBI's faces, the more likely they will rethink their strategy. Although at this point I'd much more like to see it backfire to a degree that finishes UBI as a bad example for a company that failed to realize that DRM does as much bad as good... Seems like most companies these days row in the opposite direction!

Why doesn't the SH developer studio find a new distributor now that also given them more time to complete features, and not shoot out half-finished products with a single sub and no full-war campaign? Or at least annouce those as forthcoming addons already to calm the waves? They should already start thinking about suing UBI for the sales they'll loose...

Anyway, I thought about the new campaign and since it is obviously not a flexible system where you could quickly change your Patrouliengebiet to a different region, say if the Mediterranean gets boring, it is a MISSION oriented game. Not a real campaign, but broken up. Do I get that right?
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And is the system protected against hackers and when there will be
a trojan in the system will be everybody infected?

I do love steam, why don`t they use it?
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Director Brent Wilkinson has signed the death sentence over UBI's future.
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its interesting that the ubisoft spokesman tells how wonderful everything will be - but i want to store my saved games on my computer. i will not be accessing the game from a 100 different ones - or playing online. it is my game, played by me.

they all sound like politicians accentuating a particular kind of positive, but who's positive is it, their's or ours?
The only eason to recall a save game on another computer might be, say, pulling up your desktop PC campaign on your laptop—sorry, but Ubi doesn't allow portable computing unless they have a perfect net connection!

They are so idiotic. You want to play, and Ubi is updating the server and you are SOL. Do you feel like smashing something at that moment, yes, or no? For me the answer would certainly be "yes." I'm not paying money to get all POed when the likely frequent server errors make it impossible to play.
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In researching DRM, every gamer forum I have visited (there are gazillions of them) is like a mirror image of this one. Everyone is upset and bitching over Ubi's decision to go DRM.

The discontent is broad enough to put Ubis future very much in doubt. If I was a Ubi shareholde, L'd be bailing out.
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i actually loved this part best:

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The system verifies the disc to see if it's a legit copy of the game using Ubisoft's servers. The up side is that it will also automatically keep the your settings online, allowing you to transfer data such as perferences and saved games across PCs.
In an interview with Gamespy, Brent Wilkinson, Ubisoft's director of customer service and production planning was adamant that this is a viable solution.
"Now you can access your saved games anywhere. You don't need the disc in the drive. You can play from any computer that has an Internet connection," he said. "We think most people are going to be fine with it. Most people are always connected to an Internet connection."
now its amazing how its going to check the disk if it isnt in the drive? or are they getting their lies mixed up?
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Ubi is taking broadsides. I hope some are hitting below the waterline.
I disagree. I want the hits to be to the bridge. Rather have them get the message up close and personal than have them sink.

Hey, your simile, not mine!
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The only eason to recall a save game on another computer might be, say, pulling up your desktop PC campaign on your laptop—sorry, but Ubi doesn't allow portable computing unless they have a perfect net connection!
The utility of online savegames is also very much suspect given that almost no one here is going to play an unmodded SH5, and savegames are very much peculiar to particular install. Consequently, you're not going to able to play at a buddies house if he's got Hi_Rez Soup_Textures_V3 enabled and you're still runnning Hi_Rez Soup_Textures_V1.
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Ubi is taking broadsides. I hope some are hitting below the waterline.
Hope it's coming at them in the form of a projectile from one of an Iowa's guns. Nothing like a 2700 lb. shell coming at you at 2690 ft/s to scare the bejeezus out of you.
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