hearing the eco ping in SH3+GWX3?

Sag75 · 10-20-09, 12:53 AM

Hi to all, I'm now playing definitely with GWX3.0 because I finished the campaign in GWX2.1

Now, in GWX3.0 the ping sound is different, somewhat shorter than in GWX2.1

This night a DD was pinging me, and I'm very sure I was able to hear an higher tonality (so not higher in volume) ping sound just following the normal ping sound tone.. a sort of: <piiingINGg..>

So what was it?? the returning ping? an eco ping from sea floor (I was 40meters from it)??

thanks..!

popcorn2721 · 10-20-09, 03:17 AM

I always thought I was hearing the echo ringing back to the sub... but thats just my opinion.

Sag75 · 10-20-09, 11:19 AM

yes, me too. I was thinking it was the echo. But why I don't hear it when a DD is tracking me by repeated pinging?

Sag75 · 10-20-09, 01:25 PM

So, any other comments on that by SH3 experts ?

Sailor Steve · 10-20-09, 01:47 PM

I've never even noticed it. Sorry.

Jimbuna · 10-20-09, 02:03 PM

You could always go into the sound folders of both GWX installations and check out/compare the echelot, sonar, sonar_coat and sonar_coat_imp files.

Sag75 · 10-20-09, 07:38 PM

Yes! the second sound is likely sonar_coat or sonar_coat_imp

so... for what cause are these files played ?

Jimbuna · 10-21-09, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sag75

Yes! the second sound is likely sonar_coat or sonar_coat_imp

so... for what cause are these files played ?

They let you know if the asdic has gone 'active' basically.

Sag75 · 10-21-09, 06:30 PM

..so is that higher tone sound the returning echo from your sub to pinging DD?

Sag75 · 10-22-09, 11:22 PM

So, I removed sonar_coat and sonar_coat_imp from Sound folder.. and the weird sound was still there!

I heard more carefully and it's the sonar.wav file for sure, just played a tone higher.

It seems played only under unknown circumstances.. I made some observations, the depth doesn't seem have an effect even if I was able to hear it more frequently when I was close to surface or the sea floor. Moreover for one time I heard only the higher tone from the external view (!?) when I was close to sea floor.. so might it be a bounce echo that is audible only on a defined angle??

Jimbuna · 10-24-09, 09:38 AM

I can't honestly say for sure

Sag75 · 10-24-09, 12:06 PM

This is the first time to me, too. Maybe because in SH3 stock and in GWX2 the ping sound is different.

Hasn't anybody heard it yet, in GWX3 ?

Jimbuna · 10-25-09, 12:06 PM

Myself and a few others have had a good 'listen around' and don't seem able to identify or replicate what your experiencing

Sag75 · 10-25-09, 11:31 PM

hi, it doesn't happen to me every day, too! Probably it takes place only in some circumstances.

I tried Narvik II mission, letting me pinging by DDs. The water is pretty shallow there and sometime I was able to hear it..

Edit:

OK! I was able to record it! now you can hear it in the link below, it's the second ping. I was in NarvikII mission, at 20 meters of depth under keel, and a DD had already started pinging me, the record starts just after getting the detection notice in events menù.

http://www.filefront.com/14797567/weird%20sonar.wma

So, I think it happens when a DD discovers you by its asdic, and it could be the echo.

Jimbuna · 10-26-09, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sag75

hi, it doesn't happen to me every day, too! Probably it takes place only in some circumstances.

I tried Narvik II mission, letting me pinging by DDs. The water is pretty shallow there and sometime I was able to hear it..

Edit:

OK! I was able to record it! now you can hear it in the link below, it's the second ping. I was in NarvikII mission, at 20 meters of depth under keel, and a DD had already started pinging me, the record starts just after getting the detection notice in events menù.

http://www.filefront.com/14797567/weird%20sonar.wma

So, I think it happens when a DD discovers you by its asdic, and it could be the echo.

Actually I realise this is not the answer your looking for but it sounds really cool.....it could possibly be an echo but I doubt it because the sonar doesn't recognise land ingame.

My guess is it could well be a sound file interfering with the sound file of another DD when both ping at the same time.

Sorry but that's the best I can suggest.

10-20-09, 12:53 AM	#1
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	hearing the eco ping in SH3+GWX3? Hi to all, I'm now playing definitely with GWX3.0 because I finished the campaign in GWX2.1 Now, in GWX3.0 the ping sound is different, somewhat shorter than in GWX2.1 This night a DD was pinging me, and I'm very sure I was able to hear an higher tonality (so not higher in volume) ping sound just following the normal ping sound tone.. a sort of: <piiingINGg..> So what was it?? the returning ping? an eco ping from sea floor (I was 40meters from it)?? thanks..! __________________ Betasom - XI Gruppo Sommergibili Atlantici http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php

10-20-09, 03:17 AM	#2
popcorn2721 Gunner Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ill Posts: 93 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	I always thought I was hearing the echo ringing back to the sub... but thats just my opinion. __________________ Silent Hunter III v1.4b GWX2.0 GWX2.1 GWX3.0 Uboat Commander 3.2 Life Boats final Torpedo Damage final Silent Hunter 4...more on that later

10-20-09, 11:19 AM	#3
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	yes, me too. I was thinking it was the echo. But why I don't hear it when a DD is tracking me by repeated pinging? __________________ Betasom - XI Gruppo Sommergibili Atlantici http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php

10-20-09, 01:47 PM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I've never even noticed it. Sorry. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-20-09, 02:03 PM	#6
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	You could always go into the sound folders of both GWX installations and check out/compare the echelot, sonar, sonar_coat and sonar_coat_imp files. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-20-09, 01:25 PM	#4
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	So, any other comments on that by SH3 experts ?

10-20-09, 07:38 PM	#7
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	Yes! the second sound is likely sonar_coat or sonar_coat_imp so... for what cause are these files played ? __________________ Betasom - XI Gruppo Sommergibili Atlantici http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php

10-21-09, 06:30 PM	#9
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	..so is that higher tone sound the returning echo from your sub to pinging DD? __________________ Betasom - XI Gruppo Sommergibili Atlantici http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php

10-22-09, 11:22 PM	#10
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	So, I removed sonar_coat and sonar_coat_imp from Sound folder.. and the weird sound was still there! I heard more carefully and it's the sonar.wav file for sure, just played a tone higher. It seems played only under unknown circumstances.. I made some observations, the depth doesn't seem have an effect even if I was able to hear it more frequently when I was close to surface or the sea floor. Moreover for one time I heard only the higher tone from the external view (!?) when I was close to sea floor.. so might it be a bounce echo that is audible only on a defined angle?? __________________ Betasom - XI Gruppo Sommergibili Atlantici http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php

10-24-09, 09:38 AM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I can't honestly say for sure __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-24-09, 12:06 PM	#12
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	This is the first time to me, too. Maybe because in SH3 stock and in GWX2 the ping sound is different. Hasn't anybody heard it yet, in GWX3 ? __________________ Betasom - XI Gruppo Sommergibili Atlantici http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php

10-25-09, 12:06 PM	#13
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Myself and a few others have had a good 'listen around' and don't seem able to identify or replicate what your experiencing __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-25-09, 11:31 PM	#14
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	hi, it doesn't happen to me every day, too! Probably it takes place only in some circumstances. I tried Narvik II mission, letting me pinging by DDs. The water is pretty shallow there and sometime I was able to hear it.. Edit: OK! I was able to record it! now you can hear it in the link below, it's the second ping. I was in NarvikII mission, at 20 meters of depth under keel, and a DD had already started pinging me, the record starts just after getting the detection notice in events menù. http://www.filefront.com/14797567/weird%20sonar.wma So, I think it happens when a DD discovers you by its asdic, and it could be the echo. __________________ Betasom - XI Gruppo Sommergibili Atlantici http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php Last edited by Sag75; 10-26-09 at 12:52 AM.