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Sag75 10-20-09 12:53 AM

hearing the eco ping in SH3+GWX3?
 
Hi to all, I'm now playing definitely with GWX3.0 because I finished the campaign in GWX2.1

Now, in GWX3.0 the ping sound is different, somewhat shorter than in GWX2.1

This night a DD was pinging me, and I'm very sure I was able to hear an higher tonality (so not higher in volume) ping sound just following the normal ping sound tone.. a sort of: <piiingINGg..>

So what was it?? the returning ping? an eco ping from sea floor (I was 40meters from it)??


thanks..!

popcorn2721 10-20-09 03:17 AM

I always thought I was hearing the echo ringing back to the sub... but thats just my opinion.

Sag75 10-20-09 11:19 AM

yes, me too. I was thinking it was the echo. But why I don't hear it when a DD is tracking me by repeated pinging?

Sag75 10-20-09 01:25 PM

So, any other comments on that by SH3 experts ?

Sailor Steve 10-20-09 01:47 PM

I've never even noticed it. Sorry.:oops:

Jimbuna 10-20-09 02:03 PM

You could always go into the sound folders of both GWX installations and check out/compare the echelot, sonar, sonar_coat and sonar_coat_imp files.

Sag75 10-20-09 07:38 PM

Yes! the second sound is likely sonar_coat or sonar_coat_imp

so... for what cause are these files played ?

Jimbuna 10-21-09 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sag75 (Post 1192375)
Yes! the second sound is likely sonar_coat or sonar_coat_imp

so... for what cause are these files played ?

They let you know if the asdic has gone 'active' basically.

Sag75 10-21-09 06:30 PM

..so is that higher tone sound the returning echo from your sub to pinging DD?

Sag75 10-22-09 11:22 PM

So, I removed sonar_coat and sonar_coat_imp from Sound folder.. and the weird sound was still there!

I heard more carefully and it's the sonar.wav file for sure, just played a tone higher.

It seems played only under unknown circumstances.. I made some observations, the depth doesn't seem have an effect even if I was able to hear it more frequently when I was close to surface or the sea floor. Moreover for one time I heard only the higher tone from the external view (!?) when I was close to sea floor.. so might it be a bounce echo that is audible only on a defined angle??

Jimbuna 10-24-09 09:38 AM

I can't honestly say for sure :hmmm:

Sag75 10-24-09 12:06 PM

This is the first time to me, too. Maybe because in SH3 stock and in GWX2 the ping sound is different.

Hasn't anybody heard it yet, in GWX3 ?

Jimbuna 10-25-09 12:06 PM

Myself and a few others have had a good 'listen around' and don't seem able to identify or replicate what your experiencing :hmmm:

Sag75 10-25-09 11:31 PM

hi, it doesn't happen to me every day, too! Probably it takes place only in some circumstances.

I tried Narvik II mission, letting me pinging by DDs. The water is pretty shallow there and sometime I was able to hear it..


Edit:

OK! I was able to record it! now you can hear it in the link below, it's the second ping. I was in NarvikII mission, at 20 meters of depth under keel, and a DD had already started pinging me, the record starts just after getting the detection notice in events menù.

http://www.filefront.com/14797567/weird%20sonar.wma


So, I think it happens when a DD discovers you by its asdic, and it could be the echo.

Jimbuna 10-26-09 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sag75 (Post 1194650)
hi, it doesn't happen to me every day, too! Probably it takes place only in some circumstances.

I tried Narvik II mission, letting me pinging by DDs. The water is pretty shallow there and sometime I was able to hear it..


Edit:

OK! I was able to record it! now you can hear it in the link below, it's the second ping. I was in NarvikII mission, at 20 meters of depth under keel, and a DD had already started pinging me, the record starts just after getting the detection notice in events menù.

http://www.filefront.com/14797567/weird%20sonar.wma


So, I think it happens when a DD discovers you by its asdic, and it could be the echo.

Actually I realise this is not the answer your looking for but it sounds really cool.....it could possibly be an echo but I doubt it because the sonar doesn't recognise land ingame.

My guess is it could well be a sound file interfering with the sound file of another DD when both ping at the same time.

Sorry but that's the best I can suggest.


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