Just curious

[GoldenRivet]

at what point in time will WE as United States Citizens stand up and say "enough is enough"?

i mean at some point that has to happen right?

so what is the line in the sand for you?

Congress has like a 2% approval rating, almost everything we want them to do they dont... and almost everything we tell them NOT to do they DO.

The big US Government is getting to be a real fiasco.

little is being done to protect your freedoms and rights any more, your citizenship is almost without value, as illegal immigrants are almost untouched by the law.

the list goes on and on

so like i said... where is the line in the sand for you?

[SteamWake]

I'm afraid its sort of out or hands ... for now.

We kep the same clowns or select new ones to legislate for us for whatever reason.

Maybe in the next 4 years the public at large may wake up and realize what is going on but not untill it effects them in some negative way.

In the meantime the march towards socialisim continues.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

at what point in time will WE as United States Citizens stand up and say "enough is enough"?

i mean at some point that has to happen right?

so what is the line in the sand for you?

Congress has like a 2% approval rating, almost everything we want them to do they dont... and almost everything we tell them NOT to do they DO.

The big US Government is getting to be a real fiasco.

little is being done to protect your freedoms and rights any more, your citizenship is almost without value, as illegal immigrants are almost untouched by the law.

the list goes on and on

so like i said... where is the line in the sand for you?

I did my part, voted and lost. I am not happy with our current crop of politians (both parties).

On a side note, I just started reading "Battle Cry of Freedom." The issues our country had back in the 1840s~50's sound very similar to today.

[AVGWarhawk]

The line is supposed to get drawn during elections. Apparently,we some forgot what to draw.

[Oberon]

I've been pondering that in the UK for some time.

The gains made by the BNP in recent years is quite a concern too.

[Digital_Trucker]

They've already crossed the line in the sand as far as I am concerned. But being just one person, there's not a lot I can do until there are enough of us to push them back across the line (which, according to Al Gore, will be underwater due to global warming by the time we start pushing them).

That reminds me of an excellent joke:

What do you call a thousand politicians at the bottom of the ocean?

A good start

[Fr8monkey]

I stoodup and said enough is enough when the Repub. spent a Trillion Dolars on a war that was not needed and put us in this economic mess.

[August]

Originally Posted by Fr8monkey

I stoodup and said enough is enough when the Repub. spent a Trillion Dolars on a war that was not needed and put us in this economic mess.

What exactly did Iraq and Afghanistan have to do with sub-prime lending?

[Biggles]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

In the meantime the march towards socialisim continues.

Everything's relative...some would say that it's a good thing...

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by August

What exactly did Iraq and Afghanistan have to do with sub-prime lending?

precisely.

someone needs to watch ...

...Part one ( )

... and two ( )

of the "crisis of credit" video, really shows you how all this stuff got started without someone going out on a politically motivated witch hunt.

seriously, i recommend these videos.

this is the problem we have with this nation

Whenever Person A recommends action or a change of direction... Person B jumps on the "Well its all Person A's fault we're in this mess to begin with" band wagon

and those discussions always go nowhere.

My opinion...

if you lend irresponsibly - and subsequently go broke because of it - it is NOT the governments place borrow all my money so they can save you.

if you run your business irresponsibly - and subsequently you have to risk going bankrupt - it is NOT the governments place to borrow all my money so they can save you.

If your home gets forclosed on because you purchased a vast over priced mantion even though your a minimum wage worker - it is NOT the governments place to take my money and give it to you so you can continue to live a life of financial reckless abandon.

see the pattern here?

[Fr8monkey]

Nixon, Reagan/Bush#1 and Bush #2- Ruin the economy.

Carter, Clinton and Obama- try to fix it..

Repubs dont blame the former for busting it; But blame the latter for not fixing it.

See a pattern?

[Oberon]

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...51CF5912FD3DAD

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Fr8monkey

Nixon, Reagan/Bush#1 and Bush #2- Ruin the economy.

Carter, Clinton and Obama- try to fix it..

Repubs dont blame the former for busting it; But blame the latter for not fixing it.

See a pattern?

Actually Carter started it Clinton made it worse.

But I know Im waisting my breath as you wont be able to step back and realize this.

Bush derangement syndrom.:rotfl:

[baggygreen]

Originally Posted by Fr8monkey

Nixon, Reagan/Bush#1 and Bush #2- Ruin the economy.

Carter, Clinton and Obama- try to fix it..

Repubs dont blame the former for busting it; But blame the latter for not fixing it.

See a pattern?

Sorry mate, but you've gotta take a step back and look a little more objectively. One of the main causes of the current issue is sub-prime lending. Under Clinton it became illegal for banks to refuse loans to people whom they knew full well could not repay, setting us up for today.

Both sides of your party lines have made blunders, but the subprime one is a Dem doing, not Bushes nor Reagan..

[Aramike]

Carter, Clinton and Obama- try to fix it..

Carter tried to fix it??? Are you SERIOUS?

How, per se, did he do that? Carter was one of the worst economic presidents of the 20th century.

Whereas, Reagan's economics led directly to one of the largest periods of economic growth in recorded history.

Please give specifics and I'll give mine.