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02-16-09, 05:39 AM
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BBC - Nuclear subs 'collide in ocean'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7892294.stm
I still don't understand how that could happen...with sonars and all, somehow they managed to collide?! |
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02-16-09, 06:37 AM
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To war with the French!
1066 shall never be forgotten. Bring on Waterloo. 
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02-16-09, 07:44 AM
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If they were both in silent/stealth mode it's possible they never even knew of each others presence in the vicinity.
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02-16-09, 09:35 AM
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If they are close enough to collide, they would be close enough to hear each other's plant noise.
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02-16-09, 09:39 AM
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Seamen Balls and Balzac were given their turn at the helms of their respective submarines.
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02-16-09, 10:59 AM
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I find that very difficult to believe. |
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02-16-09, 11:28 AM
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Hmmm
The French sub took sonar dome damage which indicates a bow collision, it's possible that one of them came up through the layer and met the other. The chances of two missile boats colliding are pretty astronomical, if it was an SSN and an SSBN then I'd say it's the old 'got too close while tracking' story, but two boomers? Boomers don't trial, well, they're not exactly designed for it. Strange, but true, wrong place wrong time I guess 
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"there was no collison, there were no submarines in that sector of sea, Steed is not among us." |
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02-16-09, 09:55 AM
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We have to realize that the construction and operation of the sub along with the procedures followed by the well trained crew are all designed to keep their sub NOT being detected by sonar and other sensors. If either of the subs was being detected on sonar or other sensors, I think there would be bigger trouble.  Both the English and the French are pretty good at hiding their subs. In this case a little too big. It is a tragic accident when two really stealthy subs try to occupy the same part of the water at the same time. 
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02-16-09, 09:55 AM
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ouch.
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02-16-09, 10:18 AM
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Let's Sink Sumptin' !
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First two satellites collide, now it's two submarines. Insurance rates are gonna skyrocket.
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02-16-09, 10:52 AM
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I guess now they need to put lookouts back out on deck.
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02-16-09, 10:53 AM
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Myesss.... thissss issssn't an excussssse to attack the French at all.... your theoriesssss are coooooreeeeect......
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