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BobbyZero 02-16-09 05:39 AM

BBC - Nuclear subs 'collide in ocean'
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7892294.stm

I still don't understand how that could happen...with sonars and all, somehow they managed to collide?!

Letum 02-16-09 06:37 AM

To war with the French!
1066 shall never be forgotten. Bring on Waterloo. :arrgh!:

Jimbuna 02-16-09 07:44 AM

If they were both in silent/stealth mode it's possible they never even knew of each others presence in the vicinity.

Takeda Shingen 02-16-09 09:35 AM

If they are close enough to collide, they would be close enough to hear each other's plant noise.

OneToughHerring 02-16-09 09:39 AM

Seamen Balls and Balzac were given their turn at the helms of their respective submarines. :03:

Ok enough of the funny stuff.

Platapus 02-16-09 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobbyZero
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7892294.stm

I still don't understand how that could happen...with sonars and all, somehow they managed to collide?!


We have to realize that the construction and operation of the sub along with the procedures followed by the well trained crew are all designed to keep their sub NOT being detected by sonar and other sensors.

If either of the subs was being detected on sonar or other sensors, I think there would be bigger trouble. :D

Both the English and the French are pretty good at hiding their subs. In this case a little too big.

It is a tragic accident when two really stealthy subs try to occupy the same part of the water at the same time. :nope:

Kapt Z 02-16-09 09:55 AM

ouch.

Torplexed 02-16-09 10:18 AM

First two satellites collide, now it's two submarines. Insurance rates are gonna skyrocket.:D

longam 02-16-09 10:52 AM

I guess now they need to put lookouts back out on deck. :hmm2:

A Very Super Market 02-16-09 10:53 AM

Myesss.... thissss issssn't an excussssse to attack the French at all.... your theoriesssss are coooooreeeeect......
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goldorak 02-16-09 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna
If they were both in silent/stealth mode it's possible they never even knew of each others presence in the vicinity.


I find that very difficult to believe.

Oberon 02-16-09 11:28 AM

Hmmm
The French sub took sonar dome damage which indicates a bow collision, it's possible that one of them came up through the layer and met the other.
The chances of two missile boats colliding are pretty astronomical, if it was an SSN and an SSBN then I'd say it's the old 'got too close while tracking' story, but two boomers? Boomers don't trial, well, they're not exactly designed for it.
Strange, but true, wrong place wrong time I guess :damn:

Letum 02-16-09 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon
if it was an SSN and an SSBN then I'd say it's the old 'got too close while tracking' story, but two boomers? Boomers don't trial, well, they're not exactly designed for it.

I bet they still practice for it tho.

Jimbuna 02-16-09 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldorak
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna
If they were both in silent/stealth mode it's possible they never even knew of each others presence in the vicinity.


I find that very difficult to believe.

The real drama will unfold if/when an official explanation is ever released.

Sub146 02-16-09 12:32 PM

Perhaps they were acting out the part from dasboot where they nearly collided with thompson in high seas. :ping:


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