Cannot Sink Large Modern Tanker

T&L5 · 02-15-09, 11:59 PM

Hi All!
First of all, my thanks to all you folks who do such magnificent work on these Mod's.
They are truely awesome pieces of work!

Now to my question: I am running the SH v1.4 with Trigger Maru Overhaul
I'm minding my own business when along comes a Large Modern Tanker.
Now no matter how many torpedos I fire into this big old tub she wont sink. I have just fired 10 torpedos spread out aft to stern over both sides of the ship and the tanker just sits there.

What am I doing wrong? I don't have this kind of trouble with Battleships or Carriers!

NEON DEON · 02-16-09, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by T&L5

Hi All!
First of all, my thanks to all you folks who do such magnificent work on these Mod's.
They are truely awesome pieces of work!

Now to my question: I am running the SH v1.4 with Trigger Maru Overhaul
I'm minding my own business when along comes a Large Modern Tanker.
Now no matter how many torpedos I fire into this big old tub she wont sink. I have just fired 10 torpedos spread out aft to stern over both sides of the ship and the tanker just sits there.

What am I doing wrong? I don't have this kind of trouble with Battleships or Carriers!

Use the deck gun.

banjo · 02-16-09, 11:13 AM

I seem to recall tankers could be hard to sink in earlier versions of the game and earlier mods, such as TMO. I have been using later versions of TMO as they come out and regularly sink large tankers with 2 - 3 torpedos.

02-16-09, 11:17 AM

send out some divers to drill holes in her

T&L5 · 02-16-09, 08:26 PM

Thank you all for your suggestions.
Just so you know, I have pumped every shell the deck gon has PLUS all the rounds from the anti-aircraft guns and the big tub just refuses to sink!

sooo,
What is the key command to release the divers????

But seriously, can I run TMO 1.7.2 with v1.4?

tater · 02-16-09, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by T&L5

But seriously, can I run TMO 1.7.2 with v1.4?

What does the README say?

peabody · 02-16-09, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tater

What does the README say?

Give him a break he's from New Jersey.

(Just kidding neighbor- Hey ya want to trade Governors ?)

I think the key command for divers is Ctl-Alt-Delete.

Did you try ramming it. That is very weird. Never had that happen before.

Peabody

Foxtrot · 02-17-09, 01:03 PM

seems to me that you torps don't have enough juice in them

NEON DEON · 02-17-09, 02:42 PM

Hay T can you show us a picture of this super tanker?

I want to see all the holes in it!

Te Kaha · 02-17-09, 03:50 PM

Spread out your torpedos, one below funnel which hopefully brings the tanker to a stop or at least reduces it's speed, the second and third torpedo in front of the funnel and forward part of the ship respectively. Firing all torpedos into the same spot doesn't help anything.

thumper · 02-18-09, 06:43 PM

I try and spread 3 torpedoes out from center to stern. The stern seems to be its "sensative" spot, one hit their and usually she seems to have a very violent experience..

I am running TMO 162 with RSRDC..

Platapus · 02-18-09, 08:44 PM

Tough tankers are the norm, I am afraid in real life.

Torpedoes sink cargo ships because the cargo ship's holds are normally filled with air/cargo which is lighter than the water the ship displaces and the torpedo lets in water which is the same weight as the surrounding water. Glub glub.

To be more technical letting water into the hold of a ship decreases the volume of the total amount of displaced water of the ship to the point where the displaced water weighs less than the weight of the ship. If you have the "Fleet Type Submarine" published by PerescopeFilm.com (and you should have this book) Chapter 5 has an excellent explanation on the rather complex topic of buoyancy.

A tanker is not a ship filled with air, but a ship designed to float while full of liquid.

Unless the torpedo can make the specific liquid go boom, all you are doing is exchanging one liquid (seawater) for another (liquid cargo). Oil is lighter than water but not by much. To sink a tanker you pretty much have to break the ship's back or make it capsize. Tankers are also capable of moving liquid from one compartment to another. I don't know if this is modeled in the game or not, but in real life punching a hole in a tanker will be more harmful to the environment than the tanker itself.

Tankers filled with av gas are easy to sink not because of the torpedo but because of the resulting fire/explosion breaking the ship. A tanker filled with heavy oil won't burn nor explode (or will be much harder to get a good fire going.)

A Tanker traveling in ballast (no or little liquid filling the compartments) may be very very hard to sink.

Under keel shots and or shots in the engine compartments are my guess at where to hit tankers. But punching holes in the liquid storage compartments may not be all the troubling to the tanker itself.

I hope this helped. Again, I don't know how much specific reality is included in each mod. Mods do not equal real life

02-15-09, 11:59 PM	#1
T&L5 Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 10 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Cannot Sink Large Modern Tanker Hi All! First of all, my thanks to all you folks who do such magnificent work on these Mod's. They are truely awesome pieces of work! Now to my question: I am running the SH v1.4 with Trigger Maru Overhaul I'm minding my own business when along comes a Large Modern Tanker. Now no matter how many torpedos I fire into this big old tub she wont sink. I have just fired 10 torpedos spread out aft to stern over both sides of the ship and the tanker just sits there. What am I doing wrong? I don't have this kind of trouble with Battleships or Carriers!

02-17-09, 01:03 PM	#8
Foxtrot Ensign Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 231 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	seems to me that you torps don't have enough juice in them __________________ And when the plane got down to, 'The plane is 10 miles out,' the young man also said to the vice president, 'Do the orders still stand?' And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, 'Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?' Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant.

02-17-09, 02:42 PM	#9
NEON DEON Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,207 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 5	Hay T can you show us a picture of this super tanker? I want to see all the holes in it! __________________ Diesel Boats Forever!

02-17-09, 03:50 PM	#10
Te Kaha Navy Dude Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austrian landlubber Posts: 178 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 2	Spread out your torpedos, one below funnel which hopefully brings the tanker to a stop or at least reduces it's speed, the second and third torpedo in front of the funnel and forward part of the ship respectively. Firing all torpedos into the same spot doesn't help anything. __________________ "E hoa, ka whawhai tonu mātou, Āke! Āke! Āke!" (Friend, we will fight on forever, forever and forever!) Rewi Maniapoto's reply to British calls for surrender, Orakau, 1864

02-18-09, 06:43 PM	#11
thumper Gunner Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Reno, Nevada. Posts: 98 Downloads: 394 Uploads: 0	hit zones I try and spread 3 torpedoes out from center to stern. The stern seems to be its "sensative" spot, one hit their and usually she seems to have a very violent experience.. I am running TMO 162 with RSRDC..

02-16-09, 11:13 AM	#3
banjo Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 762 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	I seem to recall tankers could be hard to sink in earlier versions of the game and earlier mods, such as TMO. I have been using later versions of TMO as they come out and regularly sink large tankers with 2 - 3 torpedos.

02-16-09, 11:17 AM	#4
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	send out some divers to drill holes in her

02-16-09, 08:26 PM	#5
T&L5 Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 10 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thank you all for your suggestions. Just so you know, I have pumped every shell the deck gon has PLUS all the rounds from the anti-aircraft guns and the big tub just refuses to sink! sooo, What is the key command to release the divers???? But seriously, can I run TMO 1.7.2 with v1.4?

02-18-09, 08:44 PM	#12
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,381 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Tough tankers are the norm, I am afraid in real life. Torpedoes sink cargo ships because the cargo ship's holds are normally filled with air/cargo which is lighter than the water the ship displaces and the torpedo lets in water which is the same weight as the surrounding water. Glub glub. To be more technical letting water into the hold of a ship decreases the volume of the total amount of displaced water of the ship to the point where the displaced water weighs less than the weight of the ship. If you have the "Fleet Type Submarine" published by PerescopeFilm.com (and you should have this book) Chapter 5 has an excellent explanation on the rather complex topic of buoyancy. A tanker is not a ship filled with air, but a ship designed to float while full of liquid. Unless the torpedo can make the specific liquid go boom, all you are doing is exchanging one liquid (seawater) for another (liquid cargo). Oil is lighter than water but not by much. To sink a tanker you pretty much have to break the ship's back or make it capsize. Tankers are also capable of moving liquid from one compartment to another. I don't know if this is modeled in the game or not, but in real life punching a hole in a tanker will be more harmful to the environment than the tanker itself. Tankers filled with av gas are easy to sink not because of the torpedo but because of the resulting fire/explosion breaking the ship. A tanker filled with heavy oil won't burn nor explode (or will be much harder to get a good fire going.) A Tanker traveling in ballast (no or little liquid filling the compartments) may be very very hard to sink. Under keel shots and or shots in the engine compartments are my guess at where to hit tankers. But punching holes in the liquid storage compartments may not be all the troubling to the tanker itself. I hope this helped. Again, I don't know how much specific reality is included in each mod. Mods do not equal real life __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.