Breaking news: Powell endorses Obama

[Von Tonner]

No surprise really.

"I have voted for members of both parties in the course of my adult life. And as I said earlier, I will vote for the candidate I think can do the best job for America, whether that candidate is a Republican, a Democrat or an independent,"

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS...ell/index.html

[Digital_Trucker]

Don't know whether he's supporting him for racial reasons or not, but after reading that article twice, his quotes sound more like he's trying to rationalize his decision as opposed to really believing what he's saying.

[Von Tonner]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Pfah, I bet he's voting for Obama just because he's black

If you watched his interview he answered that question. I respect Powell and I do not for one moment think that he is that shallow or that your insinuation is warranted. Is Warren Buffet black - no. But hey, he endorses Obama as well.

[Von Tonner]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

I was kidding

Sorry Mikhayl, I apologise.

[Von Tonner]

Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

Don't know whether he's supporting him for racial reasons or not, but after reading that article twice, his quotes sound more like he's trying to rationalize his decision as opposed to really believing what he's saying.

Look I cannot speak for Powell, but it does not take a rocket scientist that the ayers, the muslim insinuations, the 'was he born in the USA', etc, are getting tiresome and for someone like Powell, a republican, it may be enough is enough.

[Von Tonner]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

No need, I asked for it !
Back to the topic (sorry!), I wonder how this news will translate in the polls, I'm sure this could turn quite a few "undecided voters" toward Obama.

Watching the 'Situation Room' that is how they read it. This endorsement will go a long way in reassuring those who question Obama's 'commander-in-chief' abilities that hey, "if a respected General gives him the nod' - well, he can't be that too shabby. I think Powell gives a pretty good rational for his endorsement - but what else would you expect from a credited General

[Digital_Trucker]

Originally Posted by Von Tonner

Look I cannot speak for Powell, but it does not take a rocket scientist that the ayers, the muslim insinuations, the 'was he born in the USA', etc, are getting tiresome and for someone like Powell, a republican, it may be enough is enough.

Agreed, McCain's campaign has gone in totally the wrong direction. They should have been going after Obama's economic policies, lack of experience, questionable associations that are more obvious and his flip-flops instead. Had they attacked his association with Rezko and officers in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac who took multi-million dollar golden parachutes and became advisors to Obama's campaign , his "spread the wealth" philosophy (refundable tax credits to folks who pay little or no tax), his questionable bill that might cost the US more than the bailouts (in the form of increased foreign aid) and his backing out of public financing so that he could take in an unheard of amount of money from folks like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and spend tons of money on commercials in freaking video games and 30 minute prime time "sermon times" because he's not facing spending limits like he agreed to do when McCain did, then Powell might have had a choice who to support. But, then, Powell should be aware of all of this, too, so is supporting the wrong person because the right persons campaign has gone in the wrong direction the right thing to do?

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Pfah, I bet he's voting for Obama just because he's black

So I can say people who vote for McCain are voting because he is white?

Disgusting!

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

Agreed, McCain's campaign has gone in totally the wrong direction. They should have been going after Obama's economic policies, lack of experience, questionable associations that are more obvious and his flip-flops instead. Had they attacked his association with Rezko and officers in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac who took multi-million dollar golden parachutes and became advisors to Obama's campaign , his "spread the wealth" philosophy (refundable tax credits to folks who pay little or no tax), his questionable bill that might cost the US more than the bailouts (in the form of increased foreign aid) and his backing out of public financing so that he could take in an unheard of amount of money from folks like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and spend tons of money on commercials in freaking video games and 30 minute prime time "sermon times" because he's not facing spending limits like he agreed to do when McCain did, then Powell might have had a choice who to support. But, then, Powell should be aware of all of this, too, so is supporting the wrong person because the right persons campaign has gone in the wrong direction the right thing to do?

Um this is not some video game where because some idiot forgot to marco his spells he still gets the item or whatever.

McCain decided to start talking about Ayers and ACORN

Ayers: Sunk when it was discovered the repubs had more involvement with him.

ACORN: That chestnut sunk badly today when a repub organization leader got arrested for voter registration fraud.

McCain had just as much right to opt out of public financing as Obama. Kerry was sunk because he was tied by that crap.

[baggygreen]

Its an interesting move.

because I am by nature a slightly cynical person, I wonder if it might be an attempt (or maybe an already sealed deal?) that if Powell endorse Obama, he'll get a job...

I doubt it, because Powell's always come across to me as a man of integrity. But stranger things have happened

[Zachstar]

Powell does NOT need any kind of "Invitation" He is known as THE political general.

Both sides of the isle. More knowledge about military and geopolitical stuffz than both McCain and Obama combined. And looks good to boot.

If he wants a job he gets it. He did not have to endorse to do so.

[baggygreen]

Some jobs, yes, he might have been a shoe-in.

Others, perhaps not.

Like i said, it's only a natural cynicism to all things political that I have..

[AVGWarhawk]

Powell is a RINO...Republican in Name Only.

[August]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Powell is a RINO...Republican in Name Only.

So is McCain.

[Digital_Trucker]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Um this is not some video game where because some idiot forgot to marco his spells he still gets the item or whatever.

McCain decided to start talking about Ayers and ACORN

Ayers: Sunk when it was discovered the repubs had more involvement with him.

ACORN: That chestnut sunk badly today when a repub organization leader got arrested for voter registration fraud.

McCain had just as much right to opt out of public financing as Obama. Kerry was sunk because he was tied by that crap.

No one intimated that it was a video game.

We all know what was done. I suggested what might have worked better for him.

I see no response regarding anything except for the public financing thing, so I'll address it. I suppose you are going to deny that Obama said, in public, that he would go the public financing route if McCain did? Well, McCain did what he said he was going to do and Obama didn't. What does that tell you about the man and what kind of attack might have worked. Same thing with Obama's "any time, anywhere" about town hall meetings and then pleading that he didn't have enough time. It's not about having a way out of a commitment, it's about keeping your commitments, which I'm sure Obama will do for those that have paid his way into the whitehouse (namely, all the greedy bastards you can think of).

If you vote on who ran the better campaign, then you're missing the point. The point is who do you really think would do the better job when the real work starts, namely getting this country out of the mess it's in.