V.P. Debate poll

SteamWake · 10-03-08, 11:21 AM

Noticed no one put one of these up yet :hmm:

NealT · 10-04-08, 05:52 AM

I hate the debates. They prep and prep and prep and really don't speak the truth anyway. They work so hard to get their points across...and in the end analysis it really makes no difference...

Nothing changes!

Konovalov · 10-03-08, 11:35 AM

A tie. Neither made any giant gaffes. It wasn't the train wreck that I thought it may be. Fairly dull.

The only thing of any real interest that struck me was how impartial and professional the moderator was given the host of complaints and outrage by some members on this forum and by the McCain campaign.

Oh yeah, and that single VP debate ain't going to make jack of a difference come the November election but everyone knew that anyway.

SteamWake · 10-03-08, 11:43 AM

Ill have to admit, the moderator did a good job of trying to be impartial.

Bidin did admit to being against Gay Marrige, which supprised me. Im sure that alone will lose them some votes. He made a few other gaffes, along with a few outright lies at which Palin missed a real opportunity.

Palin came off a little too 'common folk' and stammered a bit at first. But I felt once she got over the jitters and stuck to conservitave Reganesque principals she did well.

FIREWALL · 10-03-08, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Ill have to admit, the moderator did a good job of trying to be impartial.

Bidin did admit to being against Gay Marrige, which supprised me. Im sure that alone will lose them some votes. He made a few other gaffes, along with a few outright lies at which Palin missed a real opportunity.

Palin came off a little too 'common folk' and stammered a bit at first. But I felt once she got over the jitters and stuck to conservitave Reganesque principals she did well.

I picked up on that "common folksy" too. Supriseingly non of my friends did. Oh well.

Digital_Trucker · 10-03-08, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

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SteamWake · 10-03-08, 12:34 PM

Thats newclur... sheese get it right...

Okay for some fun "Fact checking" yea I know its fox but facts is facts.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10...ential-debate/

Frame57 · 10-03-08, 12:48 PM

IMO Sarah needs to knock off the "Geez, gosh golly " stuff. I too was not impressed by the debate. Really what I would like to see is both candidates Obama and McCain do an address the nation type deal on the TV. Simply present their plans in detail, because that is what we want to know. Not his same old "he voted for this or that", over and over again...

Molon Labe · 10-03-08, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov

A tie. Neither made any giant gaffes. It wasn't the train wreck that I thought it may be. Fairly dull.

The only thing of any real interest that struck me was how impartial and professional the moderator was given the host of complaints and outrage by some members on this forum and by the McCain campaign.

Oh yeah, and that single VP debate ain't going to make jack of a difference come the November election but everyone knew that anyway.

I didn't weigh in on that on this board, but it professional conduct at the debate doesn't excuse the conflict of interest. The fact of the matter is that she has a financial stake in the outcome of the election, likely worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. And she did not disclose this conflict of interest to the board that runs the debates. That was unethical by any standard.

Being an attorney, I tend to compare things like this to the way things work in my profession. All joking about our trade aside, we take professional ethics seriously. Journalists should have a sense of ethics too. Had Ifill been a judge and had Palin and Biden as parties before her, and not disclosed her conflict and recused herself from the case, she would have been disbarred from practice and probably prosecuted for corruption. It would not have been a defense had she in fact been able to preside over the case fairly, professional ethics demand that when you have a financial stake in one of the parties, you do not preside over their cases, PERIOD. Ifill should never be selected to moderate any debate ever again.

Digital_Trucker · 10-03-08, 11:41 AM

Definitely a tie, which is a win for McCain/Palin since everyone expected her to fall on her face and also a win for Obama/Biden because many expected Jokin' Joe to gaffe himself to death. Both sides made points, both sides distorted the truth to fit their points.

The saddest part of all was the moderation. The rules were laid out before the questions started and after the first question, the moderator (and I use the term loosely) broke the rules by going on to the second question without the 2 minute rebuttal period. Overall, a very disorganized affair. PBS should be ashamed of the first two debates since, IMHO, both moderators were complete failures. Hope the next two are more debate and less speech.

View Poll Results: Whom do you believe 'won' the 10/02/08 VP debate
Biden	17	42.50%
Palin	12	30.00%
A tie	11	27.50%
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10-03-08, 11:21 AM	#1
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	V.P. Debate poll Noticed no one put one of these up yet :hmm:

10-03-08, 11:35 AM	#3
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	A tie. Neither made any giant gaffes. It wasn't the train wreck that I thought it may be. Fairly dull. The only thing of any real interest that struck me was how impartial and professional the moderator was given the host of complaints and outrage by some members on this forum and by the McCain campaign. Oh yeah, and that single VP debate ain't going to make jack of a difference come the November election but everyone knew that anyway. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

10-03-08, 11:41 AM	#10
Digital_Trucker Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Peach State Posts: 4,171 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 10	Definitely a tie, which is a win for McCain/Palin since everyone expected her to fall on her face and also a win for Obama/Biden because many expected Jokin' Joe to gaffe himself to death. Both sides made points, both sides distorted the truth to fit their points. The saddest part of all was the moderation. The rules were laid out before the questions started and after the first question, the moderator (and I use the term loosely) broke the rules by going on to the second question without the 2 minute rebuttal period. Overall, a very disorganized affair. PBS should be ashamed of the first two debates since, IMHO, both moderators were complete failures. Hope the next two are more debate and less speech. __________________ RSM-GIEP-Killflags-LV Tribute-Playable Elco __Peace be with you, Dave.

10-04-08, 05:52 AM	#2
NealT Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 2 Meters Below Jimbuna Posts: 1,060 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I hate the debates. They prep and prep and prep and really don't speak the truth anyway. They work so hard to get their points across...and in the end analysis it really makes no difference... Nothing changes!

10-03-08, 11:43 AM	#4
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Ill have to admit, the moderator did a good job of trying to be impartial. Bidin did admit to being against Gay Marrige, which supprised me. Im sure that alone will lose them some votes. He made a few other gaffes, along with a few outright lies at which Palin missed a real opportunity. Palin came off a little too 'common folk' and stammered a bit at first. But I felt once she got over the jitters and stuck to conservitave Reganesque principals she did well.

10-03-08, 12:34 PM	#7
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Thats newclur... sheese get it right... Okay for some fun "Fact checking" yea I know its fox but facts is facts. http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10...ential-debate/

10-03-08, 12:48 PM	#8
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	IMO Sarah needs to knock off the "Geez, gosh golly " stuff. I too was not impressed by the debate. Really what I would like to see is both candidates Obama and McCain do an address the nation type deal on the TV. Simply present their plans in detail, because that is what we want to know. Not his same old "he voted for this or that", over and over again...