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Old 08-29-08, 08:53 AM   #1
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Default Anyone seen this? Jimmi Carter calls Obama a 'black boy'...

... and it does not make headlines. Anyone want to bet if that would have been said a Republican, people would scream bloody murder. So much to " there is no liberal media bias".

The hypocrisy and double standards are just amazing.

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Old 08-29-08, 09:03 AM   #2
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Oh, I thinks Obamas response would be quite simply...."Nuts"
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There is no issue at all, so don't create one out of empty blue air. Both context and the way he used the phrase are important and make the difference, and one really needs to have the intention to stir up some trouble in order to see any issue in this snippet.
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There is no issue at all, so don't create one out of empty blue air. Both context and the way he used the phrase are important and make the difference, and one really needs to have the intention to stir up some trouble in order to see any issue in this snippet.
The problem here is: you just see it from a single point of view, namely, how it is handled in Germany. While I do agree with you, here in the US race is a big issue, even if the insult or meaning just exists in ones imagination. In politics it is even worse.

Anyone remember the Black Hole comparison a while back?
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Old 08-29-08, 09:27 AM   #5
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There is no issue at all, so don't create one out of empty blue air. Both context and the way he used the phrase are important and make the difference, and one really needs to have the intention to stir up some trouble in order to see any issue in this snippet.
The problem here is: you just see it from a single point of view, namely, how it is handled in Germany. While I do agree with you, here in the US race is a big issue, even if the insult or meaning just exists in ones imagination. In politics it is even worse.

Anyone remember the Black Hole comparison a while back?
I am totally aware of that, however I did not get the impression that he used the word by mistake. He used it intentionally, to make clear his point.
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There is no issue at all, so don't create one out of empty blue air. Both context and the way he used the phrase are important and make the difference, and one really needs to have the intention to stir up some trouble in order to see any issue in this snippet.
The problem here is: you just see it from a single point of view, namely, how it is handled in Germany. While I do agree with you, here in the US race is a big issue, even if the insult or meaning just exists in ones imagination. In politics it is even worse.

Anyone remember the Black Hole comparison a while back?
I am totally aware of that, however I did not get the impression that he used the word by mistake. He used it intentionally, to make clear his point.
I do not disagree with this. However, my point stands. If the republicans or anyone not supporting Obama had said that he/she would be roasted on a stick.
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Jimmy's not the brightest bulb in the box and it was a very poor choice of words, but I think it was obvious in the video that what he said was not meant in a racist manner. No argument on the media cutting slack where they see fit, though.

Edit : At least he did better than certain other civil rights advocates and didn't use the N word.
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Jimmy's not the brightest bulb in the box and it was a very poor choice of words, but I think it was obvious in the video that what he said was not meant in a racist manner. No argument on the media cutting slack where they see fit, though.

Edit : At least he did better than certain other civil rights advocates and didn't use the N word.
Oh, I did not say he meant it in a racist way. The wording was just most curious, since it would be all blown up if the other side had said it.
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Jimmy's not the brightest bulb in the box and it was a very poor choice of words, but I think it was obvious in the video that what he said was not meant in a racist manner. No argument on the media cutting slack where they see fit, though.

Edit : At least he did better than certain other civil rights advocates and didn't use the N word.
Oh, I did not say he meant it in a racist way. The wording was just most curious, since it would be all blown up if the other side had said it.
Racism exists across party lines in US.

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... and it does not make headlines. Anyone want to bet if that would have been said a Republican, people would scream bloody murder. So much to " there is no liberal media bias".

The hypocrisy and double standards are just amazing.

True words man. What's worse is, if a repub did it, you would get quadruple the media coverage when the parasites Jessey Jackson and Al Sharpton have a new platform to stand on, and come they would, out of the woodwork they hide behind.

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Racism exists across party lines in US.
and the rest of the world, as well
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Jimmy's not the brightest bulb in the box and it was a very poor choice of words, but I think it was obvious in the video that what he said was not meant in a racist manner. No argument on the media cutting slack where they see fit, though.

Edit : At least he did better than certain other civil rights advocates and didn't use the N word.
Oh, I did not say he meant it in a racist way. The wording was just most curious, since it would be all blown up if the other side had said it.
Racism exists across party lines in US.

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... and it does not make headlines. Anyone want to bet if that would have been said a Republican, people would scream bloody murder. So much to " there is no liberal media bias".

The hypocrisy and double standards are just amazing.

True words man. What's worse is, if a repub did it, you would get quadruple the media coverage when the parasites Jessey Jackson and Al Sharpton have a new platform to stand on, and come they would, out of the woodwork they hide behind.

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Can I ask you directly, are you a racist?
Disliking, or having a negative opinion on someone does not make him/her a racist. My personal opinion of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson is not much better than my opinion on Billary Clinton. I think all three are crooks and liars.

Does that mean I am racist or a chauvinist. Nope. It just means I do not like the persons in question.
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I thought it was obvious that he meant it in the past tense: immediately following the word "boy" come the words "who grew up..."; he refers to fact that Obama was indeed, at one time, a boy.

That said, I take Thomen's original point (and yes, Subman1's too) that if someone high up on the Right had said exactly the same thing it would have been major news.
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Disliking, or having a negative opinion on someone does not make him/her a racist. My personal opinion of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson is not much better than my opinion on Billary Clinton. I think all three are crooks and liars.

Does that mean I am racist or a chauvinist. Nope. It just means I do not like the persons in question.
Actually I was asking SUBMAN1 but thanks for the answer anyway.

And yes, to answer Digital Trucker, racism is elsewhere too. However, not all countries can act out their racism in their foreign or indeed domestic policies in such a large scale as the US can.
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... and it does not make headlines. Anyone want to bet if that would have been said a Republican, people would scream bloody murder. So much to " there is no liberal media bias".

The hypocrisy and double standards are just amazing.

True words man. What's worse is, if a repub did it, you would get quadruple the media coverage when the parasites Jessey Jackson and Al Sharpton have a new platform to stand on, and come they would, out of the woodwork they hide behind.

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