US army sued over religious discrimination

Skybird · 07-09-08, 09:15 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/08/ath...ier/index.html

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Michael Weinstein, a retired senior Air Force officer and founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, is suing along with Hall. Weinstein said he's been contacted by more than 8,000 members of the military, almost all of them complaining of pressure to embrace evangelical Christianity.

"A spiritually transformed military, with ambassadors for Christ in uniform empowered by the Holy Spirit."

Oh my god.

Yahoshua · 07-09-08, 09:22 AM

So.....the whole thing of declaring oneself to be an "Atheist Chaplain" is no longer an army shenanigan but now the real thing??

kurtz · 07-09-08, 09:22 AM

I think it was Wellington who said of the scots guards? ,"I don't know what they do to the enemy...but they frighten me".

Iceman · 07-09-08, 02:59 PM

Aww...the military always loves you communist heathens...

mrbeast · 07-09-08, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman

Aww...the military always loves you communist heathens...

Yup but communist heathens' 'got guts and guts is enough'!

Stealth Hunter · 07-09-08, 03:43 PM

As George Carlin said: "And the final commandment should be 'Thou Shalt Keep Thy Religion to Thyself'."

It's nobodies business other than my own what religion I am or what I believe. This is what happens when you get a Christian majority inside a country (or any religious majority, for that matter). They expect you to conform to the most popular beliefs.

Whatever happened to Freedom of Religion?:hmm:

This is like gays serving in the military. Shouldn't really be all that controversial. If they are fighting for their country, then they should have a right to continue in the military. However, it's no different than how it was during World War II with the blacks. They thought that just because they were African-American, they would somehow be horrid in combat when in fact they proved to be better than most of the whites were!

I always have admired the French for that. During World War I, blacks were not allowed to serve in American regiments; they handed them over to the French army. The French government wasn't racist like the American government was, either.

Tchocky · 07-09-08, 03:46 PM

SH - I'd say Americans have it pretty good for Freedom of Religion.

Stealth Hunter · 07-09-08, 03:47 PM

Meh, I prefer Germany's take on it. Everybody keeps it to themselves and nobody fights over it... because if they DO fight over it, they are hauled to jail.

Skybird · 07-09-08, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

As George Carlin said: "And the final commandment should be 'Thou Shalt Keep Thy Religion to Thyself'."

Heeeeee...!!

That one is mine...!

Platapus · 07-09-08, 05:20 PM

I remember back when I was in the military, we had this Captain who actually got up on his hind legs and told his troops that non-christians should not be allowed to be in the military.

Never being one to embarrass asswipes in front of their troops, several of us had a private conversation with this guy.

People in leadership positions need to separate their personal feelings from their leadership persona.

I guess some things have not changed much.

07-09-08, 09:22 AM	#2
Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	So.....the whole thing of declaring oneself to be an "Atheist Chaplain" is no longer an army shenanigan but now the real thing?? __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

07-09-08, 09:22 AM	#3
kurtz Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leighton Buzzard,England Posts: 660 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	I think it was Wellington who said of the scots guards? ,"I don't know what they do to the enemy...but they frighten me". __________________ War without Fire is like sausages without mustard-Henry V. http://www.myvintagelife.co.uk/

07-09-08, 03:46 PM	#7
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	SH - I'd say Americans have it pretty good for Freedom of Religion. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

07-09-08, 05:20 PM	#10
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I remember back when I was in the military, we had this Captain who actually got up on his hind legs and told his troops that non-christians should not be allowed to be in the military. Never being one to embarrass asswipes in front of their troops, several of us had a private conversation with this guy. People in leadership positions need to separate their personal feelings from their leadership persona. I guess some things have not changed much. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

07-09-08, 02:59 PM	#4
Iceman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mesa AZ, Arizona, USA Posts: 1,253 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Aww...the military always loves you communist heathens...

07-09-08, 03:43 PM	#6
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	As George Carlin said: "And the final commandment should be 'Thou Shalt Keep Thy Religion to Thyself'." It's nobodies business other than my own what religion I am or what I believe. This is what happens when you get a Christian majority inside a country (or any religious majority, for that matter). They expect you to conform to the most popular beliefs. Whatever happened to Freedom of Religion?:hmm: This is like gays serving in the military. Shouldn't really be all that controversial. If they are fighting for their country, then they should have a right to continue in the military. However, it's no different than how it was during World War II with the blacks. They thought that just because they were African-American, they would somehow be horrid in combat when in fact they proved to be better than most of the whites were! I always have admired the French for that. During World War I, blacks were not allowed to serve in American regiments; they handed them over to the French army. The French government wasn't racist like the American government was, either.

07-09-08, 03:47 PM	#8
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Meh, I prefer Germany's take on it. Everybody keeps it to themselves and nobody fights over it... because if they DO fight over it, they are hauled to jail.