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Skybird 07-09-08 09:15 AM

US army sued over religious discrimination
 
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/08/ath...ier/index.html

Quote:

Michael Weinstein, a retired senior Air Force officer and founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, is suing along with Hall. Weinstein said he's been contacted by more than 8,000 members of the military, almost all of them complaining of pressure to embrace evangelical Christianity.

"A spiritually transformed military, with ambassadors for Christ in uniform empowered by the Holy Spirit."
Oh my god.

Yahoshua 07-09-08 09:22 AM

So.....the whole thing of declaring oneself to be an "Atheist Chaplain" is no longer an army shenanigan but now the real thing??:roll:

kurtz 07-09-08 09:22 AM

I think it was Wellington who said of the scots guards? ,"I don't know what they do to the enemy...but they frighten me".

Iceman 07-09-08 02:59 PM

Aww...the military always loves you communist heathens... :)

mrbeast 07-09-08 03:40 PM

Yup but communist heathens' 'got guts and guts is enough'! :stare: :D

Stealth Hunter 07-09-08 03:43 PM

As George Carlin said: "And the final commandment should be 'Thou Shalt Keep Thy Religion to Thyself'."

It's nobodies business other than my own what religion I am or what I believe. This is what happens when you get a Christian majority inside a country (or any religious majority, for that matter). They expect you to conform to the most popular beliefs.:shifty:

Whatever happened to Freedom of Religion?:hmm:

This is like gays serving in the military. Shouldn't really be all that controversial. If they are fighting for their country, then they should have a right to continue in the military. However, it's no different than how it was during World War II with the blacks. They thought that just because they were African-American, they would somehow be horrid in combat when in fact they proved to be better than most of the whites were!

I always have admired the French for that. During World War I, blacks were not allowed to serve in American regiments; they handed them over to the French army. The French government wasn't racist like the American government was, either.

Tchocky 07-09-08 03:46 PM

SH - I'd say Americans have it pretty good for Freedom of Religion.

Stealth Hunter 07-09-08 03:47 PM

Meh, I prefer Germany's take on it. Everybody keeps it to themselves and nobody fights over it... because if they DO fight over it, they are hauled to jail.:yep:

Skybird 07-09-08 04:21 PM

This thread more or less is an update to what we had started here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125504

Skybird 07-09-08 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter
As George Carlin said: "And the final commandment should be 'Thou Shalt Keep Thy Religion to Thyself'."

Heeeeee...!! :arrgh!: That one is mine...!

Platapus 07-09-08 05:20 PM

I remember back when I was in the military, we had this Captain who actually got up on his hind legs and told his troops that non-christians should not be allowed to be in the military.

Never being one to embarrass asswipes in front of their troops, several of us had a private conversation with this guy.

People in leadership positions need to separate their personal feelings from their leadership persona.

I guess some things have not changed much.

UnderseaLcpl 07-09-08 05:24 PM

Can't we just rely on the time-honored tradition of enemy fire making believers out of everyone?

Sailor Steve 07-09-08 06:01 PM

James Madison, the "Father of the Constitution" believed that neither the congress nor the military should have chaplains at all; or at least congress should pay for them out of their own pockets.

nikimcbee 07-09-08 10:20 PM

Well, I guess Stonewall Jackson would be happy.:roll: He refused to fight on Sunday.


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