A question about The Enemy Below

Yorktown_Class · 05-23-08, 11:17 PM

I love this movie and have seen it several times,when the captain of the Haines says he could be pulled into a fight with a German raider,is he reffering to a Hansa Class ship?
He says that it could out gun and out run his Buckley Class DD,I know it is just a movie,but was just curious if this is true and is he reffering to a Hansa or something else...thanks

Mittelwaechter · 05-24-08, 04:03 AM

I guess he refers to a german raider like "Graf Spee" or "Admiral Sheer" - so called pocketbattleships of the German Kriegsmarine. No match for a DD.

Admiral Sheer

geosub1978 · 05-24-08, 04:28 AM

Even the commerce raiders e.g. ATLANTIS had a very strong armament of 6-8 6'' guns and several torpedo tubes. These could also tie down a BUCKLEY class DE (or CANNON which is the correct in ENEMY BELOW). Remember that KORMORAN sunk the Australian light cruiser HMAS PERTH (if I remember well the name!).

Schwuppes · 05-24-08, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by geosub1978

Even the commerce raiders e.g. ATLANTIS had a very strong armament of 6-8 6'' guns and several torpedo tubes. These could also tie down a BUCKLEY class DE (or CANNON which is the correct in ENEMY BELOW). Remember that KORMORAN sunk the Australian light cruiser HMAS PERTH (if I remember well the name!).

Wasn't it the HMAS Sydney?

geosub1978 · 05-24-08, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Schwuppes

Wasn't it the HMAS Sydney?

Correct! That's why I said "if I remember well the name"

d@rk51d3 · 05-24-08, 06:53 AM

Sunk just out of Perth, so not too bad a guess.

TLAM Strike · 05-24-08, 10:59 AM

Robert Mitchem says about the U-Boat from the intel message "RVing with German Raider "S", "Q" or "M"." which makes me think its a merchant converson and not a normal warship. IE they only know it exists not its name or specifics.

I could be totaly wrong though...

nikimcbee · 05-24-08, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mittelwaechter

I guess he refers to a german raider like "Graf Spee" or "Admiral Sheer" - so called pocketbattleships of the German Kriegsmarine. No match for a DD.

Admiral Sheer

Is this a pre-nazi photo? Look at the flag.

Sailor Steve · 05-25-08, 01:02 AM

It looks like the Armed Forces State Flag used by the German military in 1933.

http://flagspot.net/flags/de1933.html

Admiral Scheer was launched in April 1933, which would fit the time frame for the flag. On the other hand she wasn't commissioned until November 1934, so in '33 I wouldn't think she would have been that 'finished'.

Yorktown_Class · 05-26-08, 04:21 PM

Thanks all for the info,ive wondered about that for quite a while

05-23-08, 11:17 PM	#1
Yorktown_Class Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Michigan USA Posts: 263 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 0	A question about The Enemy Below I love this movie and have seen it several times,when the captain of the Haines says he could be pulled into a fight with a German raider,is he reffering to a Hansa Class ship? He says that it could out gun and out run his Buckley Class DD,I know it is just a movie,but was just curious if this is true and is he reffering to a Hansa or something else...thanks __________________ David

05-24-08, 04:03 AM	#2
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	I guess he refers to a german raider like "Graf Spee" or "Admiral Sheer" - so called pocketbattleships of the German Kriegsmarine. No match for a DD. Admiral Sheer __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE

05-24-08, 04:28 AM	#3
geosub1978 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salamis Base Posts: 567 Downloads: 229 Uploads: 0	commerce raiders Even the commerce raiders e.g. ATLANTIS had a very strong armament of 6-8 6'' guns and several torpedo tubes. These could also tie down a BUCKLEY class DE (or CANNON which is the correct in ENEMY BELOW). Remember that KORMORAN sunk the Australian light cruiser HMAS PERTH (if I remember well the name!). __________________

05-24-08, 10:59 AM	#7
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Robert Mitchem says about the U-Boat from the intel message "RVing with German Raider "S", "Q" or "M"." which makes me think its a merchant converson and not a normal warship. IE they only know it exists not its name or specifics. I could be totaly wrong though... __________________

05-25-08, 01:02 AM	#9
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	It looks like the Armed Forces State Flag used by the German military in 1933. http://flagspot.net/flags/de1933.html Admiral Scheer was launched in April 1933, which would fit the time frame for the flag. On the other hand she wasn't commissioned until November 1934, so in '33 I wouldn't think she would have been that 'finished'. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-24-08, 06:53 AM	#6
d@rk51d3 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,952 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	Sunk just out of Perth, so not too bad a guess.

05-26-08, 04:21 PM	#10
Yorktown_Class Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Michigan USA Posts: 263 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 0	Thanks all for the info,ive wondered about that for quite a while __________________ David