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Yorktown_Class 05-23-08 11:17 PM

A question about The Enemy Below
 
I love this movie and have seen it several times,when the captain of the Haines says he could be pulled into a fight with a German raider,is he reffering to a Hansa Class ship?
He says that it could out gun and out run his Buckley Class DD,I know it is just a movie,but was just curious if this is true and is he reffering to a Hansa or something else...thanks

Mittelwaechter 05-24-08 04:03 AM

I guess he refers to a german raider like "Graf Spee" or "Admiral Sheer" - so called pocketbattleships of the German Kriegsmarine. No match for a DD.

http://www.grenzposten.com/seeschiff...ral_scheer.jpg
Admiral Sheer

geosub1978 05-24-08 04:28 AM

commerce raiders
 
Even the commerce raiders e.g. ATLANTIS had a very strong armament of 6-8 6'' guns and several torpedo tubes. These could also tie down a BUCKLEY class DE (or CANNON which is the correct in ENEMY BELOW). Remember that KORMORAN sunk the Australian light cruiser HMAS PERTH (if I remember well the name!).

Schwuppes 05-24-08 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geosub1978
Even the commerce raiders e.g. ATLANTIS had a very strong armament of 6-8 6'' guns and several torpedo tubes. These could also tie down a BUCKLEY class DE (or CANNON which is the correct in ENEMY BELOW). Remember that KORMORAN sunk the Australian light cruiser HMAS PERTH (if I remember well the name!).

Wasn't it the HMAS Sydney?

geosub1978 05-24-08 05:36 AM

Hmas Sydney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schwuppes
Wasn't it the HMAS Sydney?

Correct! That's why I said "if I remember well the name";)
:up:

d@rk51d3 05-24-08 06:53 AM

Sunk just out of Perth, so not too bad a guess.:up:

TLAM Strike 05-24-08 10:59 AM

Robert Mitchem says about the U-Boat from the intel message "RVing with German Raider "S", "Q" or "M"." which makes me think its a merchant converson and not a normal warship. IE they only know it exists not its name or specifics.

I could be totaly wrong though...

nikimcbee 05-24-08 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mittelwaechter
I guess he refers to a german raider like "Graf Spee" or "Admiral Sheer" - so called pocketbattleships of the German Kriegsmarine. No match for a DD.

http://www.grenzposten.com/seeschiff...ral_scheer.jpg
Admiral Sheer

Is this a pre-nazi photo? Look at the flag.

Sailor Steve 05-25-08 01:02 AM

It looks like the Armed Forces State Flag used by the German military in 1933.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ve/de1933m.jpg
http://flagspot.net/flags/de1933.html

Admiral Scheer was launched in April 1933, which would fit the time frame for the flag. On the other hand she wasn't commissioned until November 1934, so in '33 I wouldn't think she would have been that 'finished'.

Yorktown_Class 05-26-08 04:21 PM

Thanks all for the info,ive wondered about that for quite a while:up:


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