Type XIB

predavolk · 03-25-08, 01:00 PM

I'm thinking of switching to a IXB from my VIIB in the summer of 1940. I'd like to experience different boats. I think I'll switch back to a VIIC-42 when they come on line, then a Type XXI if I last that long. Before I make the switch, I have a few questions:

1- Does switching back cost renown? I.e., if I hate the IXB, and switch back to the VII, do I have to pay for it again?

2- Is the 10.5cm gun much more effective than the 8.8? That could make a significant difference in the effectiveness of the boat at this stage.

3-I know that the boat is bigger, but how much is the effect? The dive times aren't radically different. What about turning times? Acceleration? And detection ranges (surface/submerged)?

I'll also gladly take any Type IX tips that I can get (I have searched, but it can't hurt to ask again!). Thanks!

Keelbuster · 03-25-08, 01:02 PM

You have to pay to get yer old boat back.

The 10.5 cm IMHO is a much better gun.

The IX class subs are sluggish to maneuver. This is sort of made up for by their firepower - launch massive attacks from a distance and don't get caught.

papa_smurf · 03-25-08, 02:56 PM

If you want to go for long range patrols (i.e USA and back), then go for a Type IX. If not stick to the Type VII's. Its down to your prefered style of command.

Brag · 03-25-08, 04:15 PM

The biggest deficiency of a IX it's its dive time. Makes a big difference when aircraft appears. When on the surface in hot aircraft areas I often stay with decks awash to reduce the diving time.

Zajcev · 03-25-08, 05:00 PM

Do not take IXB unless you start with it. It has 1 less torpedo than IXC, and also shorter range, that is not much greater than VIIB. VIIB with engine upgrade and good crew can give you range of IXB - enough for a one way trip to new york at 10kts. IXC is also only slightly more expensive than IXB.

von hally · 03-25-08, 05:36 PM

lo mate

i asked this qustion not long ago

look here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=131868

i do miss the type7.....but the extra 9 or so torpedoes certainly make up for a slower diving boat

try it mate...you can always go back

Zajcev · 03-25-08, 06:46 PM

I just swapped VIIB for VIIC and bought all upgrades in dec 1941. Maximum range seems to be the same as on VIIB ~17800 at 9-10kts. So you don't need a IX for long range.

Antiacus · 03-25-08, 07:42 PM

In my current career i decided to go to extremes. I upgraded to a 2d as soon as available then switched to the 2nd flotilla out of Willem. Once we tranfer to France i'll upgrade to a ixc.

For now i'm a shallow water/harbor raider. Later i'll be an open water long range attacker.

Should make for a nice contrast in styles. I love the type 2 for it's escapability.

03-25-08, 01:00 PM	#1
predavolk Weps Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 369 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Type XIB I'm thinking of switching to a IXB from my VIIB in the summer of 1940. I'd like to experience different boats. I think I'll switch back to a VIIC-42 when they come on line, then a Type XXI if I last that long. Before I make the switch, I have a few questions: 1- Does switching back cost renown? I.e., if I hate the IXB, and switch back to the VII, do I have to pay for it again? 2- Is the 10.5cm gun much more effective than the 8.8? That could make a significant difference in the effectiveness of the boat at this stage. 3-I know that the boat is bigger, but how much is the effect? The dive times aren't radically different. What about turning times? Acceleration? And detection ranges (surface/submerged)? I'll also gladly take any Type IX tips that I can get (I have searched, but it can't hurt to ask again!). Thanks!

03-25-08, 01:02 PM	#2
Keelbuster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BA 72 Posts: 1,092 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	You have to pay to get yer old boat back. The 10.5 cm IMHO is a much better gun. The IX class subs are sluggish to maneuver. This is sort of made up for by their firepower - launch massive attacks from a distance and don't get caught. __________________

03-25-08, 02:56 PM	#3
papa_smurf Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2,851 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	If you want to go for long range patrols (i.e USA and back), then go for a Type IX. If not stick to the Type VII's. Its down to your prefered style of command. __________________

03-25-08, 04:15 PM	#4
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The biggest deficiency of a IX it's its dive time. Makes a big difference when aircraft appears. When on the surface in hot aircraft areas I often stay with decks awash to reduce the diving time. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

03-25-08, 05:36 PM	#6
von hally Commodore Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 634 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	lo mate i asked this qustion not long ago look here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=131868 i do miss the type7.....but the extra 9 or so torpedoes certainly make up for a slower diving boat try it mate...you can always go back __________________ May God Have Mercy Upon My Enemies ..... Because I Wont.

03-25-08, 05:00 PM	#5
Zajcev Seaman Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 34 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Do not take IXB unless you start with it. It has 1 less torpedo than IXC, and also shorter range, that is not much greater than VIIB. VIIB with engine upgrade and good crew can give you range of IXB - enough for a one way trip to new york at 10kts. IXC is also only slightly more expensive than IXB.

03-25-08, 06:46 PM	#7
Zajcev Seaman Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 34 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I just swapped VIIB for VIIC and bought all upgrades in dec 1941. Maximum range seems to be the same as on VIIB ~17800 at 9-10kts. So you don't need a IX for long range.

03-25-08, 07:42 PM	#8
Antiacus Medic Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Springfield, Oregon Posts: 161 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	In my current career i decided to go to extremes. I upgraded to a 2d as soon as available then switched to the 2nd flotilla out of Willem. Once we tranfer to France i'll upgrade to a ixc. For now i'm a shallow water/harbor raider. Later i'll be an open water long range attacker. Should make for a nice contrast in styles. I love the type 2 for it's escapability.