Pls help to sink Yamato..

znatan · 02-09-08, 05:38 PM

Hello everyone. Well, after few years of Ubisoft IL2 in the air, I am stack now with SH4 now.. and seems like for long :p

This forum got me into the game and so far I had no major problems.. However, these days I am left with 6 torpedos and want to sink the Yamato one. Yep met them.. Last time I did it, it took me about 8 or 9 topedos I think. After few tries now I am runnning out of options. I try to hit them 1 by 1 into the same hole or spread them, nothing helps.. Pls help, how to target and where. I am running enable of all realism options, except manual targetting - this one will come a little bit later.. Pls advice.

Thanks.

The Fishlord · 02-09-08, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by znatan

Hello everyone. Well, after few years of Ubisoft IL2 in the air, I am stack now with SH4 now.. and seems like for long :p

This forum got me into the game and so far I had no major problems.. However, these days I am left with 6 torpedos and want to sink the Yamato one. Yep met them.. Last time I did it, it took me about 8 or 9 topedos I think. After few tries now I am runnning out of options. I try to hit them 1 by 1 into the same hole or spread them, nothing helps.. Pls help, how to target and where. I am running enable of all realism options, except manual targetting - this one will come a little bit later.. Pls advice.

Thanks.

Set your running depth at about 20 feet; any shallower will send it into the armor belt and so do almost no damage.

Target just under each turret; you have a higher chance of setting off the magazines.

When I sank my first Yamato it took 9 torpedoes, five spread out over the starboard side and four on the port side. It may take more; the manual recommends a minimum of 14 hits to ensure sinking. I guess I just got lucky.

Try to spread them out as much as possible. Just smashing the same place over and over doesn't help; in seconds it will have been sealed to be watertight by the crew. No, your goal is to flood as many compartments as possible. Hit both sides of the ship if you can.

FIREWALL · 02-09-08, 06:23 PM

What he said

And WELCOME ABOARD

Good Luck & Good Hunting

John Channing · 02-10-08, 08:52 AM

The actual WW2 doctrine predicted 7 torpedos to sink a BB (14 fired with 50% chance of hit with spread).

Your mileage may vary.

JCC

seafarer · 02-10-08, 09:09 AM

Also, don't try to put multiple torpedoes into the same spot - damage is not cumulative. Spread them out along the length of the hull, to spread the damage out along the length of the target.

CaptainHaplo · 02-10-08, 02:07 PM

I have to disagree with seafarer regarding cumalitve damage - if your running stock you get a sinking when damage gets to a certain number of "hitpoints" - so putting a torp into the same spot does add to the damage.

However, if your running something like NSM - then he is right.

Hmmm - really want to sink it? Well, just mod your torps to do more damage - or grab one of the torp mods out there that do the same thing. You can simply double the effectiveness of your torps for the one encounter. Sure its cheating - but still satifies in some ways! Either way - good luck!

peabody · 02-10-08, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Fishlord

Target just under each turret; you have a higher chance of setting off the magazines.

I agree 100% with that. I had my best luck hitting at or just behind the second turret from the front. Like he states if you hit the magazine Kaboooom.
Another thing I have had some luck with when I first got the game and was doing Quick misssions, so it may not work as well in expert Career mode. If you end up with one 'dead in the water' and you have a chance to come back. Look it over, if it seems to be a bit low in the water in the stern, consentrate a couple more toward the stern. It already damaged and if you get another compartment a bit forward or aft of the present damage you might get enough water in it to put it under.
One thing to note, if you shoot your torps from one side then continue under the ship to fire the aft torps, Ah DavyJonesFootLocker isn't listening is he? shhhhhhh be very quite....The draft on that battleship is more than you would expect, Trust me!

I found out the hard way.

Peabody

jasondef · 02-10-08, 02:22 PM

what year and month of the war can I expect to maybe run into a yamamoto?

Torplexed · 02-10-08, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jasondef

what year and month of the war can I expect to maybe run into a yamamoto?

The first operation the Yamato participated in was Midway. So roughly from May or June 1942 on. Realistically, encounters should be rare. There were only two built, Yamato and Musashi, and due to their high fuel consumption they spent a lot of time at anchor acting as headquarter ships. However, they are featured prominently in some of the single mission scenarios.

bookworm_020 · 02-10-08, 07:24 PM

I sank two Yamato's with four torpedos apiece (the third torpedo set off the magazine each time!)

C DuDe · 02-11-08, 08:09 AM

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your goal is to flood as many compartments as possible.

Very true, setting torpedoes at dgr. angles +4, +2, 0, -2, -4 will doe some great damage... depth settings is for anyone to decide for himself.

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Hit both sides of the ship if you can.

This I wouldn't do... hitting 1 side of BB at different heights and places will help the vessel list to one side and help the sinking... it might take some time for she goes but eventually she will

seafarer · 02-11-08, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

I have to disagree with seafarer regarding cumalitve damage - if your running stock you get a sinking when damage gets to a certain number of "hitpoints" - so putting a torp into the same spot does add to the damage.

you are right, of course

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

However, if your running something like NSM - then he is right.

:hmm: Are there people who still play without NSM :hmm:

:p It's just been so long since I have had an install that does not have NSM, that I guess I've just come to think of it as the norm, not the other way around.

Pred8tor · 02-11-08, 12:09 PM

I found Yamato in a harbor (Hiroshima, I think) during a photo recon patrol. Had about 8 torps left, between fore and aft, and fired them all and hightailed it out of the area.

She went down. Except the water was so shallow she simply rested on the bottom, with a slight list to one side. No fire or explosions, and I gave no thought to trying the deck gun to finish her off. I managed to get back to base with absolutely no recognition of my contribution to the war effort. <sigh>

I wonder... if it had blown up ... would I get credit if it goes down in 50 ft of water?

stuntcow · 02-11-08, 01:31 PM

I sunk one in the bay and she was still sticking out of the water and I got credit for her. Was my first patrol with over 100,000. Helps to get 63000 with four torps.(shot in a spread at keel)

znatan · 02-15-08, 01:14 AM

Thank you guys for the tips and tactics, they are reall good. Serve me already now with other ships too..

Well, hacking the game.. topr-damage hmmm.. maybe later on. I've tried few more times to sink this Yamato, it won't go.. So, I've left it and went to somth more realistic, grabbed a battleship (~30K tonnes) + another cruiser (~10-15K). And managed to run away somehow.. I wanted to finish the patrol to start the new one with manual targeting.. which is a peace of excitement when you do have an actual success.

Well, I've installed the light ver of NSM.. so will wait for another Yamato to come

As well, reading the NSM manual is grate thing..... did so now

Thanks again

02-09-08, 05:38 PM	#1
znatan Seaman Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: where do u think? Posts: 42 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Pls help to sink Yamato.. Hello everyone. Well, after few years of Ubisoft IL2 in the air, I am stack now with SH4 now.. and seems like for long :p This forum got me into the game and so far I had no major problems.. However, these days I am left with 6 torpedos and want to sink the Yamato one. Yep met them.. Last time I did it, it took me about 8 or 9 topedos I think. After few tries now I am runnning out of options. I try to hit them 1 by 1 into the same hole or spread them, nothing helps.. Pls help, how to target and where. I am running enable of all realism options, except manual targetting - this one will come a little bit later.. Pls advice. Thanks.

02-09-08, 06:23 PM	#3
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	What he said And WELCOME ABOARD Good Luck & Good Hunting __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

02-10-08, 09:09 AM	#5
seafarer Commodore Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 622 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Also, don't try to put multiple torpedoes into the same spot - damage is not cumulative. Spread them out along the length of the hull, to spread the damage out along the length of the target. __________________ My Father's ship, HMCS Waskesiu (K330), sank U257 on 02/24/1944 running SHIII-1.4 with GWX2.1 and SHIV-1.5 with TMO/RSRDC/PE3.3 under MS Vista Home Premium 32-bit SP1 ACER AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 400GB SATA HD Antec TruePower Trio 650watt PSU BFG GeForce 8800GT/OC 512MB VRAM, Samsung 216BW widescreen (1680x1050) LCD

02-10-08, 02:07 PM	#6
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	I have to disagree with seafarer regarding cumalitve damage - if your running stock you get a sinking when damage gets to a certain number of "hitpoints" - so putting a torp into the same spot does add to the damage. However, if your running something like NSM - then he is right. Hmmm - really want to sink it? Well, just mod your torps to do more damage - or grab one of the torp mods out there that do the same thing. You can simply double the effectiveness of your torps for the one encounter. Sure its cheating - but still satifies in some ways! Either way - good luck! __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

02-10-08, 02:22 PM	#8
jasondef Weps Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 358 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	what year and month of the war can I expect to maybe run into a yamamoto? __________________ "My, God! Those bulkheads! Did you hear them burst!" System: 40gb 5400rpm HD \| Generic MB from around '02 \| P4 2.6 400GHz \| 1 GB PC2100 DDR (2 mismatched 512's) 16x CD-ROM \| GeForce 7800 AGP \| broken Radio Shack case fan \| Ergonomic keyboard (missing a shift key) PS2 ball mouse \| surge protector \| USB 1.1 expansion card \| Really cool surround-sound headphones

02-10-08, 08:52 AM	#4
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	The actual WW2 doctrine predicted 7 torpedos to sink a BB (14 fired with 50% chance of hit with spread). Your mileage may vary. JCC

02-10-08, 07:24 PM	#10
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I sank two Yamato's with four torpedos apiece (the third torpedo set off the magazine each time!) __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

02-11-08, 12:09 PM	#13
Pred8tor Nub Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I found Yamato in a harbor (Hiroshima, I think) during a photo recon patrol. Had about 8 torps left, between fore and aft, and fired them all and hightailed it out of the area. She went down. Except the water was so shallow she simply rested on the bottom, with a slight list to one side. No fire or explosions, and I gave no thought to trying the deck gun to finish her off. I managed to get back to base with absolutely no recognition of my contribution to the war effort. <sigh> I wonder... if it had blown up ... would I get credit if it goes down in 50 ft of water?

02-11-08, 01:31 PM	#14
stuntcow Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Posts: 113 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I sunk one in the bay and she was still sticking out of the water and I got credit for her. Was my first patrol with over 100,000. Helps to get 63000 with four torps.(shot in a spread at keel) __________________ U.S.S. Harder "Hit'em Harder" "How long can you tread water?"

02-15-08, 01:14 AM	#15
znatan Seaman Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: where do u think? Posts: 42 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	thanks for help Thank you guys for the tips and tactics, they are reall good. Serve me already now with other ships too.. Well, hacking the game.. topr-damage hmmm.. maybe later on. I've tried few more times to sink this Yamato, it won't go.. So, I've left it and went to somth more realistic, grabbed a battleship (~30K tonnes) + another cruiser (~10-15K). And managed to run away somehow.. I wanted to finish the patrol to start the new one with manual targeting.. which is a peace of excitement when you do have an actual success. Well, I've installed the light ver of NSM.. so will wait for another Yamato to come As well, reading the NSM manual is grate thing..... did so now Thanks again Last edited by znatan; 02-15-08 at 06:30 AM.