About Sonar

lockon · 08-08-07, 12:23 PM

If i ping a ship equiped with hydrophone , would he notice me?
Cause i can got ping sound from escort I think they also can do so from my ping .

And one thing always confuced me is once a ship is pinging me why i can get it's sound in every bearings?
In my opinion, it only come from the ship's bearing ,not all bearing around.

Von Manteuffel · 08-08-07, 12:35 PM

If you ping a ship which has passive sound - detection ( hydrophones ) it will certainly hear you, pinpoint your bearing and come after you.

Not sure what you mean by "every bearing" - the actual in-game sound you hear of a ship pinging is for effect, but everyone inside a submarine being targeted by SONAR / ASDIC would be aware of it and would hear trhe searcher.

SteamWake · 08-08-07, 01:43 PM

An active ping near an enemy vessel will certainly wake them up. Now what qualify as 'near' I have no idea.

Here is an excellent discussion on sonar / radar http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107947

lockon · 08-08-07, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Von Manteuffel

If you ping a ship which has passive sound - detection ( hydrophones ) it will certainly hear you, pinpoint your bearing and come after you.

Not sure what you mean by "every bearing" - the actual in-game sound you hear of a ship pinging is for effect, but everyone inside a submarine being targeted by SONAR / ASDIC would be aware of it and would hear trhe searcher.

But when they got my ping why they know where i am?
Because I neither can know where dose their ping come from.

every bearing means all bearing from 0 to 360.
Is sonar ping sound loud enough so that we can hear even without hydrophone?

Actually , i have bad english

if some sentence wrong please put me right on it.

donut · 08-08-07, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lockon

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Originally Posted by Von Manteuffel

If you ping a ship which has passive sound - detection ( hydrophones ) it will certainly hear you, pinpoint your bearing and come after you.

Not sure what you mean by "every bearing" - the actual in-game sound you hear of a ship pinging is for effect, but everyone inside a submarine being targeted by SONAR / ASDIC would be aware of it and would hear the searcher.

But when they got my ping why they know where i am?They don't know where you are,but they are alerted that you are around,& be overhead soon,depending on range of interception.
Because I neither can know where dose their ping come from.Correct

every bearing means all bearing from 0 to 360.The ping radiates 360 degrees.
Is sonar ping sound loud enough so that we can hear even without hydrophone?Yes,in the sub.

Actually , I have bad English

.
If some sentence wrong please put me right on it.

gotcah, good hunting

Frederf · 08-09-07, 12:42 AM

Isn't there an ultrasonic (higher than normal hearing frequency) sonar ping that they use for short range?

Fearless · 08-09-07, 01:11 AM

Will only be heard if the surface ship has sensors to pick up the sound.

SteamWake · 08-09-07, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Frederf

Isn't there an ultrasonic (higher than normal hearing frequency) sonar ping that they use for short range?

On contemporary platforms yes. I dont think they had this technology in WW2.

They also have broad spectrum pings that actually sweep from sub sonic to ultra sonic and everything in between.

As far as being able to hear the ping without sonar... if you were close enough you could actually feel the ping but youd have to be very close indeed.

They (the opponent) should not reasonably solve a bearing with a single ping but it damn sure lets them know something is out there.

lockon · 08-09-07, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by donut

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Originally Posted by lockon

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Originally Posted by Von Manteuffel

If you ping a ship which has passive sound - detection ( hydrophones ) it will certainly hear you, pinpoint your bearing and come after you.

Not sure what you mean by "every bearing" - the actual in-game sound you hear of a ship pinging is for effect, but everyone inside a submarine being targeted by SONAR / ASDIC would be aware of it and would hear the searcher.

But when they got my ping why they know where i am?They don't know where you are,but they are alerted that you are around,& be overhead soon,depending on range of interception.
Because I neither can know where dose their ping come from.Correct

every bearing means all bearing from 0 to 360.The ping radiates 360 degrees.
Is sonar ping sound loud enough so that we can hear even without hydrophone?Yes,in the sub.

Actually , I have bad English

.
If some sentence wrong please put me right on it.

gotcah, good hunting

Even if ping radiate 360 .....its like a bulb illuminating on me
so there is shadow that we can't hear the ping.
very curious:hmm:

A good thing making more challenge is now it have reason to use hydrophone to caculate range instead of sonar ping to keep from spotted.

WernerSobe · 08-09-07, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by lockon

If i ping a ship equiped with hydrophone , would he notice me?
Cause i can got ping sound from escort I think they also can do so from my ping .

And one thing always confuced me is once a ship is pinging me why i can get it's sound in every bearings?
In my opinion, it only come from the ship's bearing ,not all bearing around.

1. The tooltip says it will alert them but ive been pinging convois and it did not alert the escorts. I think it can alert escorts when you are pinging from very close range directly agains escort ship.

2. Its not in every bearing. When you are very deep or behind the escort the pings stop. Thats not because they stopped it but because youre outside of the arc. So its directional.

08-08-07, 12:23 PM	#1
lockon Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 7 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	About Sonar If i ping a ship equiped with hydrophone , would he notice me? Cause i can got ping sound from escort I think they also can do so from my ping . And one thing always confuced me is once a ship is pinging me why i can get it's sound in every bearings? In my opinion, it only come from the ship's bearing ,not all bearing around.

08-09-07, 01:11 AM	#7
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08-08-07, 12:35 PM	#2
Von Manteuffel Commander Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 473 Downloads: 411 Uploads: 0	If you ping a ship which has passive sound - detection ( hydrophones ) it will certainly hear you, pinpoint your bearing and come after you. Not sure what you mean by "every bearing" - the actual in-game sound you hear of a ship pinging is for effect, but everyone inside a submarine being targeted by SONAR / ASDIC would be aware of it and would hear trhe searcher.

08-08-07, 01:43 PM	#3
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	An active ping near an enemy vessel will certainly wake them up. Now what qualify as 'near' I have no idea. Here is an excellent discussion on sonar / radar http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107947

08-09-07, 12:42 AM	#6
Frederf Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 665 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 1	Isn't there an ultrasonic (higher than normal hearing frequency) sonar ping that they use for short range?