Tmaru and the "Bathtub"

Ducimus · 08-06-07, 06:58 PM

Thinking of putting it back, for two reasons:

1.) This post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by elanaiba

New conning towers are only assigned during a refit. How do you get a refit? You roll one from time to time when returning to base.

So even if you're past the date of the conning tower update, your boat needs to get a refit to receive it.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...64&postcount=6

So accordingto Dan, its not broke. I did acutally see a refit ONCE, when the game first came out, lost the bathtub and wondered why.

2.) Tower design is historically correct.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/0820801.jpg
Grayback (SS-208), port side view,Electric Boat Co., Groton, CT., 31 January 1941.

And if THIS picture doesnt prove it, nothing will:
http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/0821238.jpg
Crew of the Gato (SS-212) posing for a shot in the Northern Pacific, circa 1942.

Personally, i'd like to put it back, but i'll go with the concensus on this one.

tater · 08-06-07, 07:05 PM

Doesn't bother me, I don't fight airplanes.

Be nice if I could get the crew to use the guns on sampans and other small craft, though. Particularly if they fought back and it hurt the deck crew...

tater

Fearless · 08-06-07, 07:09 PM

Doesn't bother me either. Was never a good shot anyway

CaptainHaplo · 08-06-07, 07:46 PM

I have to vote no on this one. If they had made the patch fix the bathtub problem (the camera problem really) then I would say leave it historical. But - going back to the historical tower means that those who WANT to play using AA guns CAN'T - and haven't we all said that CHOICE balancing realism is what we desire?

Ducimus, if you go decide to go back to the old tower, then at least make it an OPTION instead of one way or the other. I don't fight planes myself, but I created a tower mod myself because people wanted the option of having a chance to use the AA gun.

Lets not also forget, you may one day be damaged heavily and stuck on the surface with planes incoming and an unusable AA gun..... Shouldn't YOU have the choice too?

ReallyDedPoet · 08-06-07, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tater

Doesn't bother me, I don't fight airplanes.

This, at least I don't take em' on very much

RDP

Col1409 · 08-06-07, 08:19 PM

I'd have to say yes put it back on, particularly as I seem only to get this problem with twin machine guns not with the singles and I also just dive away when I get a aircraft contact. Mind you it would be nice for people to have the option whether they want it or not if at all possible.

alunatic · 08-06-07, 10:40 PM

I say take it off, even though it is realistic with it on but I just get so sick of getting bombed and sunk by 2 Betty's because the stupid bathtub gets in the way.

WilhelmSchulz. · 08-06-07, 10:59 PM

I voted yes because it is historcorly corect but I dont agrie with Dan's way of refits.

NefariousKoel · 08-07-07, 01:29 AM

The problem with having a "chance" on returning to base could still mean you'll have a bathtub forever.

I wouldn't mind seeing it very early in the war but I have doubts that they are removed when they should be.

Fearless · 08-07-07, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NefariousKoel

The problem with having a "chance" on returning to base could still mean you'll have a bathtub forever.

I wouldn't mind seeing it very early in the war but I have doubts that they are removed when they should be.

Yes, that's what I did like in SH3, the option to change the sails when they came available.

chopped50ford · 08-07-07, 03:09 AM

if its historically correct, sure.

Any picts of the "bathtub"?

PepsiCan · 08-07-07, 03:15 AM

But only under the condition that the camera issue gets fixed with a patch. I don't see why it should be either historically accurate OR the ability to fire at all angles. I think it should be historically accurate AND the ability to fire at all angles.

p.s.: and why am I a medic now?

EDIT: Ah, I changed to something else...interesting!

Archie · 08-07-07, 05:09 AM

hmmm, gameplay vs. historical realism .... I tend to agree with the naysayers on this one, option for no bathtub for me thanks!

CaptainCox · 08-07-07, 05:09 AM

Voted for the Historically correct one. Down the road we could maybe do a tweak for the "position of that gun" to lift it a bit maybe to avoid the blocked view.

FooFighters · 08-07-07, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PepsiCan

But only under the condition that the camera issue gets fixed with a patch. I don't see why it should be either historically accurate OR the ability to fire at all angles. I think it should be historically accurate AND the ability to fire at all angles.

p.s.: and why am I a medic now?

I 100% agree.. if the camera is fixed.
Keep it historic.

p.s. wait till you get " the one night in Bangkok avatar" :rotfl: :rotfl:

View Poll Results: Should the "bathtub" be put back in?
Yes, its historically correct, and Dan's probably right about refits	50	60.98%
No, i hate it, i dont care, just don't gimme the bathtub!	21	25.61%
Whichever, i don't care one way or the other.	11	13.41%
Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

08-06-07, 07:09 PM	#3
Fearless Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 1,047 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 1	Doesn't bother me either. Was never a good shot anyway __________________ Fearless System Specs: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8 Core 16 Thread CPU, 3.8GHz Base Clock, 4.7GHz Boost, 105W TDP, 32MB L3 cache \| MSI GeForce RTX3060Ti 8Gb Graphics \| Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32Gb (2x16Gb) 3200 MHz CL16 DDR4 Ram \| Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe SSD 1TB \| Seagate Barracuda 2.5in 2TB HDD \| AOC QHD 165 Hz FreeSync HDR curved 31.5in Monitor \| ASUS ROG Strix LC 240 ARGB AIO Liquid CPU Cooler White Edition \| ASUS ROG Strix Gold 750W Modular Power Supply \| Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB Tempered Glass Mid Tower Case White.

08-06-07, 07:46 PM	#4
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	I have to vote no on this one. If they had made the patch fix the bathtub problem (the camera problem really) then I would say leave it historical. But - going back to the historical tower means that those who WANT to play using AA guns CAN'T - and haven't we all said that CHOICE balancing realism is what we desire? Ducimus, if you go decide to go back to the old tower, then at least make it an OPTION instead of one way or the other. I don't fight planes myself, but I created a tower mod myself because people wanted the option of having a chance to use the AA gun. Lets not also forget, you may one day be damaged heavily and stuck on the surface with planes incoming and an unusable AA gun..... Shouldn't YOU have the choice too? __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

08-06-07, 10:59 PM	#8
WilhelmSchulz. The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virgina Beach Posts: 1,301 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	I voted yes because it is historcorly corect but I dont agrie with Dan's way of refits. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink… others require our assistance."

08-07-07, 01:29 AM	#9
NefariousKoel Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: No-good Missouri scum Posts: 1,223 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	The problem with having a "chance" on returning to base could still mean you'll have a bathtub forever. I wouldn't mind seeing it very early in the war but I have doubts that they are removed when they should be. __________________ "When Gary told me he had found Jesus, I thought, Yahoo! We're rich! But it turned out to be something different." - Jack Handey

08-06-07, 07:05 PM	#2
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Doesn't bother me, I don't fight airplanes. Be nice if I could get the crew to use the guns on sampans and other small craft, though. Particularly if they fought back and it hurt the deck crew... tater

08-06-07, 08:19 PM	#6
Col1409 Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bath, UK Posts: 10 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'd have to say yes put it back on, particularly as I seem only to get this problem with twin machine guns not with the singles and I also just dive away when I get a aircraft contact. Mind you it would be nice for people to have the option whether they want it or not if at all possible.

08-06-07, 10:40 PM	#7
alunatic Bosun Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lafayette, Louisiana (I'm English though) Posts: 65 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I say take it off, even though it is realistic with it on but I just get so sick of getting bombed and sunk by 2 Betty's because the stupid bathtub gets in the way.

08-07-07, 03:09 AM	#11
chopped50ford Weps Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bentonville, AR Posts: 367 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	if its historically correct, sure. Any picts of the "bathtub"? __________________ TM2(SS) USS Asheville - Plankowner, Shellback, "Order of the Ditch" http://ths-i.com/

08-07-07, 03:15 AM	#12
PepsiCan Planesman Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 189 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I voted yes But only under the condition that the camera issue gets fixed with a patch. I don't see why it should be either historically accurate OR the ability to fire at all angles. I think it should be historically accurate AND the ability to fire at all angles. p.s.: and why am I a medic now? EDIT: Ah, I changed to something else...interesting! __________________ =================== AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.1Ghz 1Gb RAM MSI NVidia 6800 128MB MSI motherboard Realtek soundcard Windows XP Pro SP2 =================== Last edited by PepsiCan; 08-08-07 at 04:29 AM.

08-07-07, 05:09 AM	#13
Archie Medic Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The South Pacific, No, Really.... The South Pacific Posts: 165 Downloads: 73 Uploads: 0	hmmm, gameplay vs. historical realism .... I tend to agree with the naysayers on this one, option for no bathtub for me thanks! __________________ __________________ "I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: 'I served in the United States Navy.'" President John F. Kennedy,

08-07-07, 05:09 AM	#14
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Voted for the Historically correct one. Down the road we could maybe do a tweak for the "position of that gun" to lift it a bit maybe to avoid the blocked view. __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE