Dead is Dead

[jazman]

When I played IL-2 offline campaigns, I would play "dead is dead." That means when I get killed, the career is over, no restarts, no reverting to last saved. I lost a few nice kill totals that way...

Is that a feasible approach in SH3? Do many play this way? How hard is it to make it through, say, a patrol? A year?

For those of you who play this way, how is your play different than if you weren't playing this way? Sure, I expect you're more cautious, but _how_ more cautious?

I'm really looking for tips on playing to sink ships AND survive.

[TarJak]

I play DiD and have been able to get to around 10-15 patrols without dying. I use SH3Commander with realistic career length on and by that stage you are getting retired by SH3C.

You have to be much more aware of the risks and make sure that Bernard isn't around to screw things up as well. It means that you tend to not go after some things that you might have before and when you get damaged you sometimes turn around without reaching your patrol grid. This happens a lot to me in post 1942 careers when the air cover is getting heavy and viable targets are harder to acquire.

When i learn the basics i cheated But now i `am not reload my save game when i miss all 4 fishes or more depends on tipe of a uboat (happen some time), and when my boat sunk with all hands wich happens usually at the biggining of 1943. GWX is a dangerous place i should say .

[Canovaro]

I have played did from the beginning, and I do 10-20 patrols with it.
Just be careful, while still trying to get enough renown to prepare your ship for the next patrol.

[Brag]

I managed 18 patrols. I think I would have gone longer had I been less confident in the success of my evading tactics.

You may want to read the article on survival on my webbie

[Puster Bill]

Dead is dead, and east is east and west is west, and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce, they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does.

I play a modified form of 'dead is dead'. If I get killed because I left the game running when I went to go see what mischief my son is getting into, or because I had to take a leak, or something, then I don't worry about reloading from my last save. Usually that kind of thing happens when I think there is no one else in the area, and I get caught on the surface by aircraft at dusk or dawn.

If, however, I get killed fair and square while I'm sitting there, then I'm dead and I abandon that career.

[Canovaro]

Originally Posted by Puster Bill

I play a modified form of 'dead is dead'. If I get killed because I left the game running when I went to go see what mischief my son is getting into, or because I had to take a leak, or something, then I don't worry about reloading from my last save. Usually that kind of thing happens when I think there is no one else in the area, and I get caught on the surface by aircraft at dusk or dawn.

If, however, I get killed fair and square while I'm sitting there, then I'm dead and I abandon that career.

Me too, did but not while you take a leak or when the pc crashes or something. Sounds fair.

[Chisum]

Probably a top 3 !


But it was a good thread, I like this one:

Originally Posted by Puster Bill

Dead is dead, and east is east and west is west, and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce, they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does.

Be serious, I'm in my first attempt in DiD(6th campagn...), now in the second mission and hope still alive long time again.

[vedrand]

Originally Posted by jazman

Is that a feasible approach in SH3? Do many play this way? How hard is it to make it through, say, a patrol? A year?

Of course it is feasible, and much more then that, it makes the game much more realistic and imemrsive, you have to be more careful about stuff. One of the means of achieving it, or not getting unpleasant surprises is keeping thr time compression at 128 top. i like doing stuff...like reading a book while on patrol.
and then each time i get to see sunset alive i think to myself... one more day in this bloody war is over and ur stil alive as you know that the war takes roughly some 2500 days... you...well see the light at the end of the tunnel. so my opinion is. did mode is the only right one for this game.

and btw i flew quite a bit of il2/46 (mostly online). and the reason why i mostly flew coop servers is exactly the fact that once you are dead... you can not do anything more in the given mission

[SmokinTep]

I'm only dead if I screw up. If I step away and something happens, then I 'll go back to last save.

[XLjedi]

Sometimes I allow myself to do something that's obviously silly, but I just wanna see what would happen. In which case, I do save the game and then try the silly task. In which case, whether I am successful or not, I would revert back to my last save.

The other night I was tracking a lone target and when I finally was close enough to make a visual contact I saw that it was a little coastal fishing boat. I had a good firing solution and wondered what it would look like if a torpedo hit a fishing boat, sooooo....

Obviously when I saw the target was a trawler and knew the seas were too rough for deck gunnage; I would've just broke off the attack and moved on. Which I did when I restarted the game.

[Klaus_Doldinger]

Dead is dead. I agree, with the exceptions mentioned, like getting up to see what is my daughter doing and similar things that happens when you think that no one is in your area... in other words, when you are not resposable of the error that send you to the bottom.

Once I tried to play a little drunk believing that the DD would not detect me. He send me to the bottom in a matter of seconds, so in the next morning I resumed my campaign in the last save before I went to the pub.:rotfl: :rotfl:

Don´t sail drunk, not to mention a convoy attack!:rotfl:

[Jimbuna]

DiD when I get the opportunity (testing committments permitting)

[UnterseeBoogeyMan]

I feel sick to my stomach to see the Abondon Carreer page and to delete the Profile, but I do it. I do it knowing that when I do sink a capitol ship and live to tell about it I have a sense of acomplishment and not a cheap thrill. Granted, I'm on Captain #8, but this last go around I made it to 1940, Operation Weserabung. Maybe on the 9th try I'll make it all the way to 1945. I do manage to get furhter each time I die.

Although its sickening to die, I have to give a toast to the Tommies that got me. They pulled a rabbit out of the hat each time they killed me.

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by jazman

When I played IL-2 offline campaigns, I would play "dead is dead." That means when I get killed, the career is over, no restarts, no reverting to last saved. I lost a few nice kill totals that way...

Is that a feasible approach in SH3? Do many play this way? How hard is it to make it through, say, a patrol? A year?

For those of you who play this way, how is your play different than if you weren't playing this way? Sure, I expect you're more cautious, but _how_ more cautious?

I'm really looking for tips on playing to sink ships AND survive.

I play this way.Of all the mods that may make this game more realistic what could be more realistic than being killed for real?
Unless of course you have a witch doctor on board and he manages to revive you from the dead.
And yes,I for one get a more profound sense of danger playing this way as it keeps you on your toes.