Red Baron SFX Trailer

AntEater · 07-05-07, 10:32 AM

http://video.mail.ru/list/pealot/2/8.html

Keep in mind that this is not Hollywood, but Ludwigsburg

Jimbuna · 07-05-07, 10:58 AM

Ludwigsburg is great all the same

The Avon Lady · 07-05-07, 11:01 AM

Nice movie but the music seemed totally wrong.

AntEater · 07-05-07, 11:02 AM

It's not an official movie trailer, but rather a demo tape of the SFX company, which is based in Ludwigsburg.
Ludwigsburg is a small town near Stuttgart previously mostly known for the largest prison of germany (now a museum).

Jimbuna · 07-05-07, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AntEater

It's not an official movie trailer, but rather a demo tape of the SFX company, which is based in Ludwigsburg.
Ludwigsburg is a small town near Stuttgart previously mostly known for the largest prison of germany (now a museum).

Nice place....once spent some time there

robbo180265 · 07-05-07, 04:39 PM

Looks fantastic,gotta say I had no trouble with the music - just like one of Dowly's videos

Chock · 07-05-07, 05:24 PM

Been looking forward to this movie coming out for a long while, since Von Richtofen is the subject of many books in my collection. From what I can gather, the treatment of Manfred Von Richthofen in this movie does seem to be fairly genuine, as opposed to the the usual Hollywood 'Gott in Himmel, I am zee Red Baron' type of portrayal he invariably gets insulted with in movies. Actually if you've ever read his autobiography (which admittedly was partly ghost-written), you'll know the guy had quite a cool sense of humour.

Anyway, this upcoming film certainly couldn't be any worse than that recent 'Flyboys' pile of arse, which came across like Beverley Hills 90210 with Biplanes.

Hopefully the actual film music will be sympathetic to the period. It all goes horribly wrong when a WW1 flick has modern music, as anyone who's ever watched Gallipoli will know, a decent movie spoiled by quite possibly the most intrusive and inappropriate soundtrack of all time.

Chock

August · 07-05-07, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chock

which came across like Beverley Hills 90210 with Biplanes.

:rotfl:

stabiz · 07-05-07, 07:30 PM

Great graphics! Hope its DX9! :rotfl:

Seriously, metal and WW1 (or WW2, for that matter) is really a good way to make me want to hurt small animals.

Looks like fun, lets just hope the music is a clever marketing ploy in the trailers to lure the Linkin Parkers into the theatres.

Sailor Steve · 07-05-07, 07:44 PM

Well, being at the library I couldn't listen to the music. That said, I must mention that I had high hopes from an earlier trailer showing the Albatroses, but seeing an action sequence like that makes me nervous. The CGI looks good, but the roll rates on some of the planes look awfully fast for some of the comparisons I've seen. I hope that trailer was speeded up a little, or I'm going to be throwing a lot of popcorn.

August · 07-05-07, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Well, being at the library I couldn't listen to the music. That said, I must mention that I had high hopes from an earlier trailer showing the Albatroses, but seeing an action sequence like that makes me nervous. The CGI looks good, but the roll rates on some of the planes look awfully fast for some of the comparisons I've seen. I hope that trailer was speeded up a little, or I'm going to be throwing a lot of popcorn.

It's a sad thing to say but I don't think we'll ever see a technically accurate WW1 Air Combat movie. The flight data on the aircraft is much too scanty and without hard numbers there's nothing to stop hollywood from taking artistic liberties to increase the action.

Heibges · 07-05-07, 09:52 PM

But to a WWI flier, going 100mph might feel the same as a WWI flier going 400mph. It is largely a matter of perspective.

If it was slowed down, realistic and "accurate", it might not come across as "authentic" because it would not capture the excitement and fear of WWI combat because we are too used to jets.

Tchocky · 07-05-07, 09:55 PM

Honesty is not synomynous with truth, eh?

Heibges · 07-05-07, 10:08 PM

At least according to a bunch of socialist deconstructionist historians.

07-05-07, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Heibges

But to a WWI flier, going 100mph might feel the same as a WWI flier going 400mph. It is largely a matter of perspective.

If it was slowed down, realistic and "accurate", it might not come across as "authentic" because it would not capture the excitement and fear of WWI combat because we are too used to jets.

You are correct in the fact that perspective/relativity does come into play Heibges. 350 kt at FL20 is far different than 350 kt at 500'.

We are also talking about Hollywood and what they feel will sell. 100 kt at altitude can seem very slow. Unless of course you are in the furball.

Since I have aviation experience I'd rather see the 100 kt dogfight, but very few have my background, and if you want to make money in the movie business liberties have to be taken.

07-05-07, 10:32 AM	#1
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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Ludwigsburg is great all the same __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Nice movie but the music seemed totally wrong. __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

07-05-07, 11:02 AM	#4
AntEater Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 936 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It's not an official movie trailer, but rather a demo tape of the SFX company, which is based in Ludwigsburg. Ludwigsburg is a small town near Stuttgart previously mostly known for the largest prison of germany (now a museum). __________________

07-05-07, 05:24 PM	#7
Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Been looking forward to this movie coming out for a long while, since Von Richtofen is the subject of many books in my collection. From what I can gather, the treatment of Manfred Von Richthofen in this movie does seem to be fairly genuine, as opposed to the the usual Hollywood 'Gott in Himmel, I am zee Red Baron' type of portrayal he invariably gets insulted with in movies. Actually if you've ever read his autobiography (which admittedly was partly ghost-written), you'll know the guy had quite a cool sense of humour. Anyway, this upcoming film certainly couldn't be any worse than that recent 'Flyboys' pile of arse, which came across like Beverley Hills 90210 with Biplanes. Hopefully the actual film music will be sympathetic to the period. It all goes horribly wrong when a WW1 flick has modern music, as anyone who's ever watched Gallipoli will know, a decent movie spoiled by quite possibly the most intrusive and inappropriate soundtrack of all time. Chock __________________

07-05-07, 04:39 PM	#6
robbo180265 Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brighton, England.Party capital of the south Posts: 2,255 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	Looks fantastic,gotta say I had no trouble with the music - just like one of Dowly's videos

07-05-07, 07:30 PM	#9
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Great graphics! Hope its DX9! :rotfl: Seriously, metal and WW1 (or WW2, for that matter) is really a good way to make me want to hurt small animals. Looks like fun, lets just hope the music is a clever marketing ploy in the trailers to lure the Linkin Parkers into the theatres. __________________

07-05-07, 07:44 PM	#10
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Well, being at the library I couldn't listen to the music. That said, I must mention that I had high hopes from an earlier trailer showing the Albatroses, but seeing an action sequence like that makes me nervous. The CGI looks good, but the roll rates on some of the planes look awfully fast for some of the comparisons I've seen. I hope that trailer was speeded up a little, or I'm going to be throwing a lot of popcorn. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-05-07, 09:52 PM	#12
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	But to a WWI flier, going 100mph might feel the same as a WWI flier going 400mph. It is largely a matter of perspective. If it was slowed down, realistic and "accurate", it might not come across as "authentic" because it would not capture the excitement and fear of WWI combat because we are too used to jets. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

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07-05-07, 10:08 PM	#14
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	At least according to a bunch of socialist deconstructionist historians. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/