[REQ]Sub hunting hooks in destroyers

Foxtrot · 06-13-07, 01:10 PM

Is it possible to implement sub hunting hooks in destroyers? Such hooks that could be deployed by destroyers on subs to damge them, and to force them to surface.

Bando · 06-13-07, 01:12 PM

What do you mean?????

kv29 · 06-13-07, 01:43 PM

what the.....¡????

Gigalocus · 06-13-07, 01:51 PM

this can't be real can it? im just getting a vision of a DD going over a sub, then an admiral with a spear trying to stab the sub :rotfl:

kv29 · 06-13-07, 01:58 PM

yeah, imagine a big sub hunter boat, once the sub is dead is towed inside and the guys start tearing it apart. you know, sub meat & oil is pricey

FIREWALL · 06-13-07, 02:15 PM

Hi Foxtrot.

It was very real and used in both World Wars. Sailor Steve and alot of older members will be better able to help you out.

And I faintly remember this being brought up awhile back. I think it was on the SH-3 forum.

Hope this was some help.

Hitman · 06-13-07, 02:50 PM

It was well used in WW1 AFAIK...as well as fishing nets (No joke!) and also a special device: A mine towed by a clable...if it touched the U-Boot...BOOOM

WW1 was more primitive, but as deadly as WW2

To implement in game the only way I can think of would be adding it to the 3D model of ships so it collides with your sub :hmm:

Redwine · 06-13-07, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxtrot

Is it possible to implement sub hunting hooks in destroyers? Such hooks that could be deployed by destroyers on subs to damge them, and to force them to surface.

Are you talking abouth those devices into "Below" movie ?

Interesting to have them....

But... was those hooks real ?

FAdmiral · 06-13-07, 03:51 PM

That tactic was used a bit but was not very practical. The hedgehogs
were much more reliable and proved to have much better results...

JIM

Bando · 06-13-07, 06:20 PM

I did not know they used tactics like this. I would think they'd use this to get dumped cars from a canal or so.
I do remember an exercise in the navy where small boats were towing barbed wire against divers. It sounds a bit more plausible to me now, I can't imaging this being used on the high seas, but it may well be used in harbour defence.
It's still a bit weird.........

Bando

Sailor Steve · 06-13-07, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Hi Foxtrot.

It was very real and used in both World Wars. Sailor Steve and alot of older members will be better able to help you out.

And I faintly remember this being brought up awhile back. I think it was on the SH-3 forum.

Hope this was some help.

Not me. I've never heard of such a thing. Never read it in any books, and we certainly didn't have anything like that when I was in; but that was 1970. Sorry, can't help.

Did you ever hear my ASROC story?:rotfl:

Bando · 06-13-07, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Did you ever hear my ASROC story?:rotfl:

No

What???

Tell me

Jmack · 06-13-07, 09:20 PM

saw the hooks in a movie ... i guess the method is the same of the DC... get the location of the sub and pass over it with the hooks

this is the movie ( its not very good but its not very bad )

here is the trailer

vindex · 06-14-07, 07:01 AM

I would just be happy if destroyers didn't blow up when they rammed me.

"U-571 meets Poltergeist!" -- is this supposed to be a recommendation? Sounds like Snakes on a Plane.

Hitman · 06-14-07, 07:30 AM

That movie is ... well I better don't say it

But the hook and nets were used in WW1, that's for sure. I read it in a book about the german subs in WW1, and it seemed logical at a time when sonar was simply non-existant...

A WW1 sub didn't dive much more than 30-50 metres usually. If you could get it with the hook, simply unstablizing it could cause to lose trim and go down like a stone:hmm: Also, in shallow waters like harbour entrances, it was even easier in depths of less than 20 metres. Fishing nets were widely used

06-13-07, 01:10 PM	#1
Foxtrot Ensign Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 231 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	[REQ]Sub hunting hooks in destroyers Is it possible to implement sub hunting hooks in destroyers? Such hooks that could be deployed by destroyers on subs to damge them, and to force them to surface.

06-13-07, 02:15 PM	#6
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Hi Foxtrot. It was very real and used in both World Wars. Sailor Steve and alot of older members will be better able to help you out. And I faintly remember this being brought up awhile back. I think it was on the SH-3 forum. Hope this was some help. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

06-13-07, 02:50 PM	#7
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	It was well used in WW1 AFAIK...as well as fishing nets (No joke!) and also a special device: A mine towed by a clable...if it touched the U-Boot...BOOOM WW1 was more primitive, but as deadly as WW2 To implement in game the only way I can think of would be adding it to the 3D model of ships so it collides with your sub :hmm: __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

06-13-07, 03:51 PM	#9
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	That tactic was used a bit but was not very practical. The hedgehogs were much more reliable and proved to have much better results... JIM __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

06-13-07, 09:20 PM	#13
Jmack Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 669 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	saw the hooks in a movie ... i guess the method is the same of the DC... get the location of the sub and pass over it with the hooks this is the movie ( its not very good but its not very bad ) here is the trailer __________________ "victim's ? ... arent we all ? "

06-13-07, 01:12 PM	#2
Bando Commodore Join Date: May 2007 Location: Where you don't see me Posts: 607 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	What do you mean?????

06-13-07, 01:43 PM	#3
kv29 Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buenos Aires Posts: 342 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	what the.....¡????

06-13-07, 01:51 PM	#4
Gigalocus Seaman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Plymouth Posts: 40 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	this can't be real can it? im just getting a vision of a DD going over a sub, then an admiral with a spear trying to stab the sub :rotfl:

06-13-07, 01:58 PM	#5
kv29 Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buenos Aires Posts: 342 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	yeah, imagine a big sub hunter boat, once the sub is dead is towed inside and the guys start tearing it apart. you know, sub meat & oil is pricey

06-13-07, 06:20 PM	#10
Bando Commodore Join Date: May 2007 Location: Where you don't see me Posts: 607 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	I did not know they used tactics like this. I would think they'd use this to get dumped cars from a canal or so. I do remember an exercise in the navy where small boats were towing barbed wire against divers. It sounds a bit more plausible to me now, I can't imaging this being used on the high seas, but it may well be used in harbour defence. It's still a bit weird......... Bando

06-14-07, 07:01 AM	#14
vindex Planesman Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 192 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	I would just be happy if destroyers didn't blow up when they rammed me. "U-571 meets Poltergeist!" -- is this supposed to be a recommendation? Sounds like Snakes on a Plane.

06-14-07, 07:30 AM	#15
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	That movie is ... well I better don't say it But the hook and nets were used in WW1, that's for sure. I read it in a book about the german subs in WW1, and it seemed logical at a time when sonar was simply non-existant... A WW1 sub didn't dive much more than 30-50 metres usually. If you could get it with the hook, simply unstablizing it could cause to lose trim and go down like a stone:hmm: Also, in shallow waters like harbour entrances, it was even easier in depths of less than 20 metres. Fishing nets were widely used __________________ One day I will return to sea ...