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Foxtrot 06-13-07 01:10 PM

[REQ]Sub hunting hooks in destroyers
 
Is it possible to implement sub hunting hooks in destroyers? Such hooks that could be deployed by destroyers on subs to damge them, and to force them to surface.

Bando 06-13-07 01:12 PM

What do you mean?????

kv29 06-13-07 01:43 PM

what the.....¡????

Gigalocus 06-13-07 01:51 PM

this can't be real can it? im just getting a vision of a DD going over a sub, then an admiral with a spear trying to stab the sub :rotfl:

kv29 06-13-07 01:58 PM

yeah, imagine a big sub hunter boat, once the sub is dead is towed inside and the guys start tearing it apart. you know, sub meat & oil is pricey :arrgh!:

FIREWALL 06-13-07 02:15 PM

Hi Foxtrot.

It was very real and used in both World Wars. Sailor Steve and alot of older members will be better able to help you out.

And I faintly remember this being brought up awhile back. I think it was on the SH-3 forum.

Hope this was some help.

Hitman 06-13-07 02:50 PM

It was well used in WW1 AFAIK...as well as fishing nets (No joke!) and also a special device: A mine towed by a clable...if it touched the U-Boot...BOOOM:D

WW1 was more primitive, but as deadly as WW2:yep:

To implement in game the only way I can think of would be adding it to the 3D model of ships so it collides with your sub :hmm:

Redwine 06-13-07 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxtrot
Is it possible to implement sub hunting hooks in destroyers? Such hooks that could be deployed by destroyers on subs to damge them, and to force them to surface.

Are you talking abouth those devices into "Below" movie ?

Interesting to have them.... :up:

But... was those hooks real ?

FAdmiral 06-13-07 03:51 PM

That tactic was used a bit but was not very practical. The hedgehogs
were much more reliable and proved to have much better results...

JIM

Bando 06-13-07 06:20 PM

I did not know they used tactics like this. I would think they'd use this to get dumped cars from a canal or so.
I do remember an exercise in the navy where small boats were towing barbed wire against divers. It sounds a bit more plausible to me now, I can't imaging this being used on the high seas, but it may well be used in harbour defence.
It's still a bit weird.........

Bando

Sailor Steve 06-13-07 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL
Hi Foxtrot.

It was very real and used in both World Wars. Sailor Steve and alot of older members will be better able to help you out.

And I faintly remember this being brought up awhile back. I think it was on the SH-3 forum.

Hope this was some help.

Not me. I've never heard of such a thing. Never read it in any books, and we certainly didn't have anything like that when I was in; but that was 1970. Sorry, can't help.

Did you ever hear my ASROC story?:rotfl:

Bando 06-13-07 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
Did you ever hear my ASROC story?:rotfl:


No

What???

Tell me

Jmack 06-13-07 09:20 PM

saw the hooks in a movie ... i guess the method is the same of the DC... get the location of the sub and pass over it with the hooks

this is the movie ( its not very good but its not very bad )

here is the trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeLUGhCLQkc

http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/image...AL._SS500_.jpg

vindex 06-14-07 07:01 AM

I would just be happy if destroyers didn't blow up when they rammed me.

"U-571 meets Poltergeist!" -- is this supposed to be a recommendation? Sounds like Snakes on a Plane.

Hitman 06-14-07 07:30 AM

That movie is ... well I better don't say it:nope:

But the hook and nets were used in WW1, that's for sure. I read it in a book about the german subs in WW1, and it seemed logical at a time when sonar was simply non-existant...

A WW1 sub didn't dive much more than 30-50 metres usually. If you could get it with the hook, simply unstablizing it could cause to lose trim and go down like a stone:hmm: Also, in shallow waters like harbour entrances, it was even easier in depths of less than 20 metres. Fishing nets were widely used:up:


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