The Convoy's First Line, A U-Boat's Shield

Brag · 06-07-07, 11:55 AM

When attacking a convoy: Let the first line of ships go by unscathed. This will create a shield of noise between the U-Boat and the lead escort. Chances are the lead escort won't even be able to hear your launching of torpedoes. Later, your high speed dash and wiggle-waggle while go you go deep will also be more difficult to detect.

In most cases I've used this tactic, escorts never bothered me.

KeptinCranky · 06-07-07, 01:52 PM

I agree it's a valid method, but only If there's bigger or equally big ships in the second and third row, or a capital ship in the middle. if the only really big targets are in the firt row I tend to shoot early and magnetic so I can hit one or 2 of the ones farther from my boat then use one fish on the first and closest merchant

yes I am a bit of a tonnage hound

bookworm_020 · 06-07-07, 06:17 PM

The Bigger ships tent to be in the center colums. I skip the small fry and go for the fat targets, more tonage, more renown and Uncle Karl like me more when I do.

The Escorts don't seem to come into the center if the convoy to search for you, unless you get spotted.

KeptinCranky · 06-07-07, 06:28 PM

hmm, I've noticed them try to navigate through several rows of zigzagging ships, which is hilarious because that's when they lose track of me, It's also fun to see a huge C3's bow towering over a piddly little flower corvette that's trying to get out of the way

on that note, why do all ships in SH3 seem to have brakes?

Foghladh_mhara · 06-07-07, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brag

Later, your high speed dash and wiggle-waggle while go you go deep will also be more difficult to detect.

In most cases I've used this tactic, escorts never bothered me.

Brag dear fellow what the hell is a wiggle-waggle? You mention it quite a lot and I have yet to come across any reference in any reputable historical works about the Kriegsmarines finest wiggle-waggling their way out of difficulty

KeptinCranky · 06-07-07, 06:41 PM

Normally the wiggle waggle is only legal for Kaleuns named Helga

, when others do it the Kriegsmarine does not speak about it:p

but sillyness aside, it's his patented get out of davy jones' locker free card, I'm sure he'll inform you

Brag · 06-08-07, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Brag

Later, your high speed dash and wiggle-waggle while go you go deep will also be more difficult to detect.

In most cases I've used this tactic, escorts never bothered me.

Brag dear fellow what the hell is a wiggle-waggle? You mention it quite a lot and I have yet to come across any reference in any reputable historical works about the Kriegsmarines finest wiggle-waggling their way out of difficulty

Fogh, old chap!
Now pay attention as I will reveal the secret of the wiggle-waggle,

Fire your last tube.
Order flank speed and a depth of 120 meters. change course 20 degrees (the wiggle)

The idea is to get away from datum where the escorts will begin looking for you.

At 50-60 meters go silent (1 knot) change course another 20 degrees (the waggle ) and drift down,

Now you can sit back, relax and have a cup of tea. Of course Tommy doesn't always respect your well deserved break.

It works most of the time. This patrol, I attacked a convoy six times, had not had a single DC dropped closer than 500 meters.

Last patrol, got pounded a couple of times.

For more info on tactics, visit my webbie

DrMilton · 06-08-07, 07:27 AM

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The idea is to get away from datum where the escorts will begin looking for you.

Now, you wouldn't by any chance happen to play DW as well... would you?

Brag · 06-08-07, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Brag

The idea is to get away from datum where the escorts will begin looking for you.

Now, you wouldn't by any chance happen to play DW as well... would you?

DW???

Foghladh_mhara · 06-08-07, 02:04 PM

Ah the 'wiggle-waggle'! Very similar to my own evasion technique

Except I call mine 'Evasion Pattern Delta' cos I think it sounds a bit less, well how can I put this... well... girlie

ronbrewer · 06-08-07, 02:05 PM

DW = Dangerous Waters

Brag · 06-08-07, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Foghladh_mhara

Ah the 'wiggle-waggle'! Very similar to my own evasion technique

Except I call mine 'Evasion Pattern Delta' cos I think it sounds a bit less, well how can I put this... well... girlie

Doenitz told me he finds your serious attitude comendable. But he still remembers the Irish convoy caper. :rotfl: :rotfl:

Foghladh_mhara · 06-08-07, 02:14 PM

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Doenitz told me he finds your serious attitude comendable. But he still remembers the Irish convoy caper. :rotfl: :rotfl:

We promised never to speak of that again

That man has no sense of humour.

Brag · 06-08-07, 02:23 PM

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Doenitz told me he finds your serious attitude comendable. But he still remembers the Irish convoy caper. :rotfl: :rotfl:

We promised never to speak of that again

That man has no sense of humour.

Cheer up, Mate, haff a trink at my party

06-07-07, 11:55 AM	#1
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The Convoy's First Line, A U-Boat's Shield When attacking a convoy: Let the first line of ships go by unscathed. This will create a shield of noise between the U-Boat and the lead escort. Chances are the lead escort won't even be able to hear your launching of torpedoes. Later, your high speed dash and wiggle-waggle while go you go deep will also be more difficult to detect. In most cases I've used this tactic, escorts never bothered me. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

06-07-07, 06:17 PM	#3
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	The Bigger ships tent to be in the center colums. I skip the small fry and go for the fat targets, more tonage, more renown and Uncle Karl like me more when I do. The Escorts don't seem to come into the center if the convoy to search for you, unless you get spotted. __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

06-08-07, 02:04 PM	#10
Foghladh_mhara Commander Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 473 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Ah the 'wiggle-waggle'! Very similar to my own evasion technique Except I call mine 'Evasion Pattern Delta' cos I think it sounds a bit less, well how can I put this... well... girlie __________________ The beauty of not planning is that failure comes as a complete surprise without any of the stress that might normally precede such a venture

06-07-07, 01:52 PM	#2
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I agree it's a valid method, but only If there's bigger or equally big ships in the second and third row, or a capital ship in the middle. if the only really big targets are in the firt row I tend to shoot early and magnetic so I can hit one or 2 of the ones farther from my boat then use one fish on the first and closest merchant yes I am a bit of a tonnage hound

06-07-07, 06:28 PM	#4
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	hmm, I've noticed them try to navigate through several rows of zigzagging ships, which is hilarious because that's when they lose track of me, It's also fun to see a huge C3's bow towering over a piddly little flower corvette that's trying to get out of the way on that note, why do all ships in SH3 seem to have brakes?

06-07-07, 06:41 PM	#6
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Normally the wiggle waggle is only legal for Kaleuns named Helga , when others do it the Kriegsmarine does not speak about it:p but sillyness aside, it's his patented get out of davy jones' locker free card, I'm sure he'll inform you

06-08-07, 02:05 PM	#11
ronbrewer Mate Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 54 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	DW = Dangerous Waters