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Old 04-27-07, 08:59 PM   #1
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Does this game make use of dual processors? i know not every game out there makes use of both of them so I was curious if SH4 did. If it doesnt then I basically am running this game with a 1.83ghz computer and that would explain why my FPS doesnt go much over 15 when Im on the conning tower and much over 30-60 fps in the campaign map.

I have about Medium graphics settings I would say and no AA on. I was running AA for awhile but wanted to see if not running it made a big difference and I dont see too much of a difference which is whats making me believe my CPU is the bottleneck at the moment.
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Old 04-27-07, 09:25 PM   #2
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http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=108291

There is some stuff in here that may answer some of your questions

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Old 04-27-07, 09:48 PM   #3
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Unfortunately, SH4 isn't multithreaded (in the true sense of the term). SH4's code would require significant re-engineering to implement multithreading correctly, and that just likely wasn't in the cards with the accelerated development schedule this time around. Perhaps down the road some future version of SHx may be multithreaded.

As multi-core processors become more popular by the day, I would be surprised if the next incarnation of SHx wasn't designed from the ground up as a multithreaded app.

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Old 04-27-07, 09:57 PM   #4
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Ya, hopefully the SH game engine has been pushed close to the limit (I wanna see the next patch max it out! ) so SH5 will have a new, multithreaded, DX10 capable game engine!
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When I was building a new computer I decided to put in a cheaper processor for now, P4 D 3.2ghz, rather than the Dual Core for this reason, that it would take developers some time to catch up with the technology. The mobo will support a dual-core down the road, they will be cheaper then to

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When I was building a new computer I decided to put in a cheaper processor for now, P4 D 3.2ghz, rather than the Dual Core for this reason, that it would take developers some time to catch up with the technology. The mobo will support a dual-core down the road, they will be cheaper then to

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Money is money but clock speed is not an accurate gauge these days when you are talking old technology vs. new technology. See the following thread, specifically the post by InteliotInside, for why buying even the cheapest dual core is better than buying a P4:

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardw...ict234530.html
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Old 04-28-07, 05:35 AM   #7
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As multi-core processors become more popular by the day, I would be surprised if the next incarnation of SHx wasn't designed from the ground up as a multithreaded app.
I'd be surprised if the next incarnation of SH was designed from the ground up.

They've got our money this time by releasing a woefully under-finished mod of SH3. Why put in the effort if the reward is the same.

Although wouldn't a pukka multi-threaded version be lovely. :wistful sigh:
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Old 04-28-07, 08:01 AM   #8
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I have seen posts indicating that disabling one of the cores on a dual core processor will make SH4 run a bit better. I can't confirm it and I don't remember where I saw it but it can't hurt to try it.
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I've watched both cores using processor time in my AMD 2.2 DC while playing SH4. I don't think anyone running this kind of setup is wasting their money on DCore in SH4. I'm getting consistant 40-60 frames in outside 3D with no complaints. I'm getting a lot of performance for the buck and I've measured my performance with bench tests on identical P4 3.0 machines I've built and the 2.2 DC matches or beats the P4 3.0 and the AMD2.4 smokes the P4 3.0.
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It is also important to note that even though there is no (or very little) multi threading in SH4, the other core will take care of Windows.
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I have seen posts indicating that disabling one of the cores on a dual core processor will make SH4 run a bit better. I can't confirm it and I don't remember where I saw it but it can't hurt to try it.

I saw those posts too and tried it, but my framerates were slightly higher leaving both cores active. I have an intel E6600 duo core and I have no complaints with how it handles this game.
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Old 04-28-07, 09:27 PM   #12
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ReallyDedPoet, sorry to correct you sir, but a P4 D 3.2 processor is a "DUAL CORE."

It is old generation dual core, but dual nonetheless. The P4 D's were the end of the P4 line, whereas the C2D (core2duos) are the "new" generation of dual core chips.
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When I was building a new computer I decided to put in a cheaper processor for now, P4 D 3.2ghz, rather than the Dual Core
FYI: Pentium D is Dual Core (link to intel.com)
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I get good frame rate with my AMD dual core.
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I have a core2duo e6600 and I´m very happy with it in SH4 (ARMA and Oblivion also loves it...) so no problems, and both cores are used in some way while playing, don´t know if the game is optimized or not but works well and that is the important thing x me!

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