Teach me about Torps..

[fastfed]

I know I posted alot of Newbie post's, but what's funny is I had this game since day 1 and played it alot, but I just installed GWX for the first time and want to try playing this game on the highest realistic version I can.

With stock SH3 I never even thought of changing anything with the torps, except the speed..

Can someone explain when to use which torps. Electric or Steam.
I assume steam is good for night and electric is good for day..

But what I really want to know is when to use magnetic, or impact.

And most important how do I know what depth to choose with magnetic..

THANKS GUYS!

[Brag]

There are two threads--probably on the second page od this forum dealing with magnetic torpedoes

[raduz]

Originally Posted by fastfed

I know I posted alot of Newbie post's, but what's funny is I had this game since day 1 and played it alot, but I just installed GWX for the first time and want to try playing this game on the highest realistic version I can.

With stock SH3 I never even thought of changing anything with the torps, except the speed..

Can someone explain when to use which torps. Electric or Steam.
I assume steam is good for night and electric is good for day..

But what I really want to know is when to use magnetic, or impact.

And most important how do I know what depth to choose with magnetic..

THANKS GUYS!

Impact: use impact pistol when your position is perpendicular to the targets course (90 degree) +-5/10 degree. The main advantage is that the impact pistols usually do not detonate prematurely

Magnetic: set dept to 0.5m - 2m under the targets keel depending on conditions (convoy, singleton, weather...). Pros: a torpedo with magnetic pistol can be shot from nearly any angle. Cons: caution, in roough weather, the magnetic pistols can detonate too early, before they hit the target.

Me personally, I use exclusively impact pistols and till now, I had no problems with premature detonations.

[fastfed]

Originally Posted by raduz

Impact: use impact pistol when your position is perpendicular to the targets course (90 degree) +-5/10 degree. The main advantage is that the impact pistols usually do not detonate prematurely

Magnetic: set dept to 0.5m - 2m under the targets keel depending on conditions (convoy, singleton, weather...). Pros: a torpedo with magnetic pistol can be shot from nearly any angle. Cons: caution, in roough weather, the magnetic pistols can detonate too early, before they hit the target.

Me personally, I use exclusively impact pistols and till now, I had no problems with premature detonations.

Thank you!! But can someone real quick let me know how to "KNOW" what depth to set the magnetic torps? How do I know how deep a ship sits?

[danlisa]

Recognition Manual it's in all optical views. Quick way is to have the vessel in you peri/obs or uzo view then then click on the ships name in the notepad in the top right and as if by magic the Recog manual will open at the right page. You want the figure called draft.

[fastfed]

Originally Posted by danlisa

Recognition Manual it's in all optical views. Quick way is to have the vessel in you peri/obs or uzo view then then click on the ships name in the notepad in the top right and as if by magic the Recog manual will open at the right page. You want the figure called draft.

THANKS!

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by fastfed

Can someone explain when to use which torps. Electric or Steam.
I assume steam is good for night and electric is good for day..

Another big difference between the electric and steam torpodeos is the speed. Steamers are faster (when fast speed is selected) than electric.

The question, which was historically hard to answer, is does the bubble trail of a steam torp post more risk than the extra speed advantage?

Some of the German Submarine Captains have written that unless the water was smooth, the bubbles really did not give much away (The initial belch of compressed air for both the electric and steam torps was easily spotted) and many of them prefered the speed. I guess the logic was that even if the ship spotted the bubble trail the torpedo was traveling so fast the ship could not maneuver out of the way.

I like steamers, just for the speed advantage. The only time I would use electrics is if I had to take a long shot (>2,000). Then I could see the advantage of an electric. However, since I try to launch at <800, I find the speed is more important then any lack of bubbles.

The important question is: Does the game's AI incorporate spotting the bubble trail in its decision whether to maneuver?

With my short shots, I don't remember any evasive maneuvers I could positively identify as being caused by the bubble trail (me being dumb enough to keep my scope up sure )

So the choice is up to you. Just don't discount the ol' steamers.

[raduz]

Originally Posted by Platapus

The important question is: Does the game's AI incorporate spotting the bubble trail in its decision whether to maneuver?

With my short shots, I don't remember any evasive maneuvers I could positively identify as being caused by the bubble trail (me being dumb enough to keep my scope up sure )

According to my experience, yes, the AI is able to spot the bubble trail and react adequately. Once, when I was young and dumb I attacked a destroyer using steam torpedo (it was a day attack) and obviously, the DD accelerated for a couple of seconds in order to evade the hit. Off course, I missed.

IMHO, if you have calculated the targets speed/AoB/range/course accurately, it doesnt really matter what kind of torpedo you use unless the target is travelling really fast (20 knots+) or it is day and long range shot.

[fastfed]

Can someone answer this simple question..

I use auto TDC, can I up periscope, lock on, hit the fire button and lower the periscope? or do I need to stay locked on untilthe torp is out of the sub?

[Penelope_Grey]

Using auto you point the scope at the part you wish to hit and then release the torpedo, once that is done, there is no further need to keep your scope pointed at the target. You can lower it, dive, aim at something else, etc.

[fastfed]

Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

Using auto you point the scope at the part you wish to hit and then release the torpedo, once that is done, there is no further need to keep your scope pointed at the target. You can lower it, dive, aim at something else, etc.

Let me rephrase..

Can I lock the target, press the fire button, AND RIGHT AWAY!! BEFORE THE TORP IS ACTUALLY OUT OF THE SUB, Unlock and dive, or lower the scope?

Meaning do I have to wait until the torp is acutally out..