sinking markers not there...

Kpt. Kozloff · 02-15-07, 08:15 AM

Hi,
Recently i spotted that some ships are sinking without leaving a mark on the map (red nor grey) but these sinkings appear in the captains log. When you exit mission all ships sunk are noted as allied. Have you got any idea what's causing it?
Grey markings on the map sometimes turn out to be allied in the end as well. (?)
This is a random thing in both cases though. A bug...?

I'm using GWX + Ocean Blue's Final Damage Mod, just started a new career October 1939 2nd patrol. And no, i'm not saving the game in 50 km vicinity of the target/ship nor land.

Any ideas guys?
Thanks.

IRONxMortlock · 02-15-07, 08:48 AM

I get this also. I did notice it in stock SH3 occasionally but I find it to be exacerbated in GWX.
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Kpt. Kozloff · 02-15-07, 09:09 AM

Exactly.
Isn't that odd? Stock SH3 had it too but it wasn't so common.
I also found that it happens at rough seas the most often. But these ships don't sink 'cause of bad weather though...

Brag · 02-15-07, 09:35 AM

I get it, too, on occasion. Never had it on stock SHIII

11Bravo · 02-15-07, 09:48 AM

Every day I read this forum, I discover a new feature of SH3 that I have not discovered.

Sunk ships are marked on the map? Really?

I have never seen it in 7 patrols...

Perhaps you need to have a proper realism setting? I selected the setting that does not give you map updates of contacts. That seems to control a whole bunch of stuff...

Kpt. Kozloff · 02-15-07, 09:56 AM

Obviously it's not happening at "no map contacts update" setting. It's only when the god's eye view is ON.

It's just an observation of a certain problem.

DaMaGe007 · 02-15-07, 10:22 AM

I get this problem too, and it seems to be happening most often when I dont watch it go down. Its a pain, because it can affect my running from a incoming destroyer.
I also get, wierd end of patrol reports, saying axix and neutral tonage sunk, and I always check the flag and compare to flag page with dates.

Captain Nemo · 02-15-07, 10:30 AM

I have noticed this too since installing GWX. Never noticed it in stock or GW1.1a. However, that is not to say that the issue wasn't present in prior versions. For me its a minor issue that I can live with considering the benefits that GWX brings to SHIII assuming that GWX has anything to do with it in the first place.

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DaMaGe007 · 02-15-07, 10:32 AM

I definatly noticed it in GW1.1, and I seem to remember it somtimes in stock.

Not 100% sure on stock tho...

Keelbuster · 02-15-07, 10:44 AM

I play with no map contact updates, so i never get the sinking marker

I do wish that we could place it though manually - right now I place an X where each sinking is, but it's easy to lose track of them in all my markings. Each sinking deserves a special mark. I just like estimating the sinking position rather than have it auto-plotted.

Kb

IRONxMortlock · 02-15-07, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaMaGe007

I get this problem too, and it seems to be happening most often when I dont watch it go down. Its a pain, because it can affect my running from a incoming destroyer.
I also get, wierd end of patrol reports, saying axix and neutral tonage sunk, and I always check the flag and compare to flag page with dates.

I find that if it doesn't appear as soon as the "She's goning down" message comes then it will never appear at all. It doesn't seem to be dependant on whether or not I happen to be watching the ship as she dies or not. Plenty of times the marker has appeared while I've been looking at the nav map.
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High Voltage · 02-15-07, 08:00 PM

Speaking of which, is there a mod out there that might allow you to write on your map. I would love to be able to scribble myself some notes, without relying solely on "X"'s...
Might not be possible due to zooming in and out and scrolling, but I would love to know if this might be possible...

DaMaGe007 · 02-15-07, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by IRONxMortlock

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMaGe007

I get this problem too, and it seems to be happening most often when I dont watch it go down. Its a pain, because it can affect my running from a incoming destroyer.
I also get, wierd end of patrol reports, saying axix and neutral tonage sunk, and I always check the flag and compare to flag page with dates.

I find that if it doesn't appear as soon as the "She's goning down" message comes then it will never appear at all. It doesn't seem to be dependant on whether or not I happen to be watching the ship as she dies or not. Plenty of times the marker has appeared while I've been looking at the nav map.

Sorry, I mean close enough to watch it, I dont have to be actually looking through the periscope or external view. So yeah, looking at the nav map would also be ok.
I have noticed it happen when I sail away before it goes down, then sometimes it shows sometimes it doesnt. I cant remember having it not show, if I stay in the area when it goes down.

Reece · 02-16-07, 12:20 AM

I have tried to see if I could place the sunken ship mark (ShipDestroyed.tga) manually or find the "no map updates" trigger but the only reference to this icon is in maps.cfg, therefore I conclude that it is hard coded!

Hartmann · 02-16-07, 12:46 PM

its a know GWX effect

read this :hmm:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...pDestroyed.tga

02-15-07, 08:15 AM	#1
Kpt. Kozloff Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Jersey - Channel Islands, UK Posts: 305 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	sinking markers not there... Hi, Recently i spotted that some ships are sinking without leaving a mark on the map (red nor grey) but these sinkings appear in the captains log. When you exit mission all ships sunk are noted as allied. Have you got any idea what's causing it? Grey markings on the map sometimes turn out to be allied in the end as well. (?) This is a random thing in both cases though. A bug...? I'm using GWX + Ocean Blue's Final Damage Mod, just started a new career October 1939 2nd patrol. And no, i'm not saving the game in 50 km vicinity of the target/ship nor land. Any ideas guys? Thanks. __________________ GWX1.03/Cmdr2.7/plus all sorts of tweaks

02-15-07, 08:48 AM	#2
IRONxMortlock Watch Officer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 339 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I get this also. I did notice it in stock SH3 occasionally but I find it to be exacerbated in GWX. ________ BUY VAPORGENIE Last edited by IRONxMortlock; 08-14-11 at 02:48 PM.

02-15-07, 09:09 AM	#3
Kpt. Kozloff Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Jersey - Channel Islands, UK Posts: 305 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Exactly. Isn't that odd? Stock SH3 had it too but it wasn't so common. I also found that it happens at rough seas the most often. But these ships don't sink 'cause of bad weather though... __________________ GWX1.03/Cmdr2.7/plus all sorts of tweaks

02-15-07, 09:35 AM	#4
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I get it, too, on occasion. Never had it on stock SHIII __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

02-15-07, 09:48 AM	#5
11Bravo Medic Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Error Triangle Posts: 168 Downloads: 157 Uploads: 0	Every day I read this forum, I discover a new feature of SH3 that I have not discovered. Sunk ships are marked on the map? Really? I have never seen it in 7 patrols... Perhaps you need to have a proper realism setting? I selected the setting that does not give you map updates of contacts. That seems to control a whole bunch of stuff... __________________ "Sounds of terror are in his ears; While at peace the destroyer comes upon him." -- Job 15:21

02-15-07, 09:56 AM	#6
Kpt. Kozloff Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Jersey - Channel Islands, UK Posts: 305 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Obviously it's not happening at "no map contacts update" setting. It's only when the god's eye view is ON. It's just an observation of a certain problem. __________________ GWX1.03/Cmdr2.7/plus all sorts of tweaks

02-15-07, 10:22 AM	#7
DaMaGe007 Watch Officer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 338 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I get this problem too, and it seems to be happening most often when I dont watch it go down. Its a pain, because it can affect my running from a incoming destroyer. I also get, wierd end of patrol reports, saying axix and neutral tonage sunk, and I always check the flag and compare to flag page with dates.

02-15-07, 10:30 AM	#8
Captain Nemo Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 1,144 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	I have noticed this too since installing GWX. Never noticed it in stock or GW1.1a. However, that is not to say that the issue wasn't present in prior versions. For me its a minor issue that I can live with considering the benefits that GWX brings to SHIII assuming that GWX has anything to do with it in the first place. Nemo __________________ "I'm afraid there is no disguising the fact that King's obsession with the Pacific and the Battle of Washington cost us dear in the Battle of the Atlantic". Sir John Slessor GCB, DSO, MC, DL AOC-in-C Coastal Command RAF ___________________________________________

02-15-07, 10:32 AM	#9
DaMaGe007 Watch Officer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 338 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I definatly noticed it in GW1.1, and I seem to remember it somtimes in stock. Not 100% sure on stock tho...

02-15-07, 10:44 AM	#10
Keelbuster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BA 72 Posts: 1,092 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I play with no map contact updates, so i never get the sinking marker I do wish that we could place it though manually - right now I place an X where each sinking is, but it's easy to lose track of them in all my markings. Each sinking deserves a special mark. I just like estimating the sinking position rather than have it auto-plotted. Kb __________________

02-15-07, 08:00 PM	#12
High Voltage Chief Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: U-33. Depth Charges...sinking.. Posts: 325 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Speaking of which, is there a mod out there that might allow you to write on your map. I would love to be able to scribble myself some notes, without relying solely on "X"'s... Might not be possible due to zooming in and out and scrolling, but I would love to know if this might be possible... __________________ The new-moon night is black as ink. Off Hatteras the tankers sink. While sadly Roosevelt counts the score-- Some fifty thousand tons--by MOHR

02-16-07, 12:20 AM	#14
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,695 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	I have tried to see if I could place the sunken ship mark (ShipDestroyed.tga) manually or find the "no map updates" trigger but the only reference to this icon is in maps.cfg, therefore I conclude that it is hard coded! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

02-16-07, 12:46 PM	#15
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	its a know GWX effect read this :hmm: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...pDestroyed.tga __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor