Sunk neutral with no loss of reknown

kkentopanga · 01-22-07, 08:53 PM

Hi,

0200 hours on the surface about 8 hours out of Kiel my watch officer spotted a ship. I went on deck to take a look and observed it was A Trawler running withoput lights. Weather was calm and clear but darker then Hell. On most friendlys they have their flag lit. I did not know if it was armed and I didnt want my position radioed in so I approached to 300 m and fired a deck shot accross their bow to evoke a response. All I got was a bright search light in my eyes which ticked me off so I sank her with 8 rounds from the deck, After she went down I checked my chart and the sinking icon was green. My first thought was that I didnt have a lot of reknown to began with without loseing more. I continued patrol and sank a Ammo ship and a medium merchant. When I returned to base I found out that I did not lose any thing and got reknown for the netural. Is there something in GWX that will forgive you if the ship is not lighted. I would rather shoot first them have her shoot first

fabel · 01-23-07, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kkentopanga

Hi,

Is there something in GWX that will forgive you if the ship is not lighted. I would rather shoot first them have her shoot first

Nope, but maybe it's because a trawler is quite a small vessel.

Brag · 01-23-07, 04:13 AM

The vessel was acting like a hostile: 1) no lights 2) using searchlight on you. That qualifies him as enemy combatant. My first GWX sinking was a supposedly neutral American munitions ship. It displayed no lights so I sent him to the bottom (11,000 tons

), which helped me get a VIIB :rotfl: :rotfl:

Mooncatt · 01-23-07, 07:39 AM

what i would like to know is that during the war at night when everything is pitch black how the hell did they I.D the targets?????

Abd_von_Mumit · 01-23-07, 07:44 AM

I think that was done by:
1. Logic and the intelligence reports,
2. Strict BdU orders as what is and what is not a valid target,
3. Shadowing the target for a long time,
4. Radio listening,
5. Ship's shape and noise.

But I can only imagine, how they did it, as I don't have any sources for what I just wrote. What makes me quite sure that I'm not much mistaken is the fact, that they actually sunk quite many of neutral ships "by accident".

Brag · 01-23-07, 09:21 AM

As the war progressed, real neutrals painted great big flags on their hulls and had them spotlighted. GWX does a pretty good job with the spot lights on the flag. If the ship doesn't show lights, sink it!!

01-22-07, 08:53 PM	#1
kkentopanga Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Roseville CA Posts: 102 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sunk neutral with no loss of reknown Hi, 0200 hours on the surface about 8 hours out of Kiel my watch officer spotted a ship. I went on deck to take a look and observed it was A Trawler running withoput lights. Weather was calm and clear but darker then Hell. On most friendlys they have their flag lit. I did not know if it was armed and I didnt want my position radioed in so I approached to 300 m and fired a deck shot accross their bow to evoke a response. All I got was a bright search light in my eyes which ticked me off so I sank her with 8 rounds from the deck, After she went down I checked my chart and the sinking icon was green. My first thought was that I didnt have a lot of reknown to began with without loseing more. I continued patrol and sank a Ammo ship and a medium merchant. When I returned to base I found out that I did not lose any thing and got reknown for the netural. Is there something in GWX that will forgive you if the ship is not lighted. I would rather shoot first them have her shoot first

01-23-07, 04:13 AM	#3
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The vessel was acting like a hostile: 1) no lights 2) using searchlight on you. That qualifies him as enemy combatant. My first GWX sinking was a supposedly neutral American munitions ship. It displayed no lights so I sent him to the bottom (11,000 tons ), which helped me get a VIIB :rotfl: :rotfl: __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

01-23-07, 07:39 AM	#4
Mooncatt Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Keighley UK Posts: 938 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	what i would like to know is that during the war at night when everything is pitch black how the hell did they I.D the targets????? __________________

01-23-07, 07:44 AM	#5
Abd_von_Mumit The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warszawa, Polska Posts: 1,453 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 4	I think that was done by: 1. Logic and the intelligence reports, 2. Strict BdU orders as what is and what is not a valid target, 3. Shadowing the target for a long time, 4. Radio listening, 5. Ship's shape and noise. But I can only imagine, how they did it, as I don't have any sources for what I just wrote. What makes me quite sure that I'm not much mistaken is the fact, that they actually sunk quite many of neutral ships "by accident". __________________ Long, hard, wet and full of seamen. My precious. SH3+GWX+OLC — sunk x4, retired x2; SH5+TDW — still exploring My SH5 mods: EQuaTool - Elite Quality Map Tools, Patrol Routine Scripts, No Logo Intro Menu_Animation, Less Annoying Stopwatch Links: SH5 mods I use, FileFront, Manual plotting how-to

01-23-07, 09:21 AM	#6
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	As the war progressed, real neutrals painted great big flags on their hulls and had them spotlighted. GWX does a pretty good job with the spot lights on the flag. If the ship doesn't show lights, sink it!! __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/