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[Smartcom5]

Originally Posted by skwasjer

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You know, since my last release (summer 2009), where I more directly asked for donations through a 'nag' screen at first launch of S3D, only 4 people decided to do so (that's 9 months ago). It's not so much I want the money, but it is an indication to me of how unappreciative many users are...
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For sure, it's a real shame … I fully support and understand your attitude since i'm also a [let's say] spare-time coder.
Besides that, S3D actually reads almost every kind of files [since SH V is actually SH IV; on filetypes and files for sure], so i don't know why you should renew S3D or implement some new fileformats or something similar …

In this sense

Smartcom

[virtualpender]

I'm not a user of S3D but I recognize that all of the mods I enjoy wouldn't be possible without all of your hard work. I just donated 20 Euros ($28 for us in the US) and I hope some others will see this and do likewise.

Here's a link to access the PayPal donation box:
http://sh4.skwas.net/downloads.aspx

Thanks again, Skwas.

[skwasjer]

Thanks vp, appreciate it.

My last post wasn't really a cry to get people to donate though. I never really opened my mouth about it (except for the nag screen), I'm fine with it, what I've done and the fact it's free. But that's that. I'm finished it. It's a bit annoying that I 'should just make it compatible' without people really realizing how much time was involved in making S3D.

I just don't have much free time to continue making it compatible with SH5. There's new controllers, new file-formats, and especially the .gr2 fileformat is a pain in the ass (proprietary undisclosed file format). Basically, I'll be looking at another 6 months to a year of development on several nights a week. I don't have the energy to do that anymore. I have to make a living too huh?

That said, S3D remains free in it's current form as long as it doesn't cost me money (it has cost me some dev-tools, and now only hosting), and anyone willing to donate is free to do so. No obligations. Just don't ask for more :p

[urfisch]

Originally Posted by skwasjer

No, no and no. Not going to happen. Unless you get all 10000 users - who are eagerly using my 2-year work for free - to pay up 20 EUR each, so I can make it my dayjob.

You know, since my last release (summer 2009), where I more directly asked for donations through a 'nag' screen at first launch of S3D, only 4 people decided to do so (that's 9 months ago). It's not so much I want the money, but it is an indication to me of how unappreciative many users are... I am not wasting more time on this project, especially with Ubisoft screwing up with SH5/DRM.

10.000 people should pay 20 eur each? ...

seriuosly. i understand you very much. what sum you want to be reached...we might get this solved, with a donations run. please tell me...as we modders in sh5 need this tool! 500 euros? 1000 euros? lets get this started...



it really pisses me off, we need to mod this game to a state, that is acceptable - i know. but you must admit, the graphics and the potential of this game is enormous...things are possible, we ever dreamed of in sh3 and sh4.

so, which amount would you make continuing work. its not, you would have to rewrite the whole program, dude. there are things need to be changed...but this might be not that complex. but tell me...and leave an amount, we need to get you back to work.



best regards
the fish

[skwasjer]

Originally Posted by urfisch

10.000 people should pay 20 eur each? ...

seriuosly. i understand you very much. what sum you want to be reached...we might get this solved, with a donations run. please tell me...as we modders in sh5 need this tool! 500 euros? 1000 euros? lets get this started...



it really pisses me off, we need to mod this game to a state, that is acceptable - i know. but you must admit, the graphics and the potential of this game is enormous...things are possible, we ever dreamed of in sh3 and sh4.

so, which amount would you make continuing work. its not, you would have to rewrite the whole program, dude. there are things need to be changed...but this might be not that complex. but tell me...and leave an amount, we need to get you back to work.



best regards
the fish

I totally agree that SH5 has great potential, but 1000 euro's = 2 days work for me (I am freelancer with lots of overhead in software tools, etc). In 2 days, I can get nothing done.

Of course 200K is a bit over the top, I was merely saying that 10000 people use S3D and 20 euro's isn't exactly much for what you get is it? But again, I was just making a point.

But calculate with me: S3D has taken me roughly 1500 hours... This is just a rough guess. At a VERY low rate of 20-30 euro an hour, that adds up to 30K-45K. So basically I lost 45K minus some 500 euro's in donation - in total - while making S3D... Think about that, each time you start it up.

You may think it's not alot of work to make it compatible with SH5, but I can tell you it is. But urfisch, really, the point isn't the cash. I just don't have much time. I'm seperated since one year, have a son to raise, looking for a new house and have two businesses to run... I'm kindof tied up you see

[urfisch]

i invested round about 500 hours (with learning stuff, etc.) in modding sh3 and 400 hours in subwolves...and also never had a cent out of it. mostly this is modding for...doing things for free, right? and personally i think every time about the work the modders have done, when using such stuff...i am also a modder!



i also worked as a freelancer and know exactly what you are talking about. even i have no son and no house to look for...etc. but please consider to take a look at the file structure of "baza_fx.dat" this is the effects file and i the effects extremly need to be modified! as i know how this stuff works with the particles, this is my mod wish. but i cannot do anything without an editor to change the controllers, add new ones, etc.

and your tool reads the data nicely, but only to the controllers. you will see what i mean, when opening it. instead of controller properties, theres just "data type byte" written...as s3d dont knows the whole file structure of the new dats.

just take a look and define some kind of time you would need...is that possible?

[ancient46]

The installer can't find InstallUtilLib.dll and rolls back. I have installed the XP .net framework to 3.5 and the file is there in the v2.0.50727 folder, but the installer can't find it. Do I have to move this file to another folder so it can be found by S3D? I tried to reinstall 2.0 but it is now not compatible with the current version and halts.

UPDATE: I downloaded netfx_setupverifier.exe from MS and it did not like my installation. I downloaded the dotnetfx_cleanup_tool from MS and removed all the .net installations on my computer. I then downloaded all of the iterations of .net to 3.5 SP1 and reinstalled them. Ran the verification tool, all OK. S3D installed, problem solved. I hope this helps anyone else that has a problem.

S3D Version 0.9.9
I open an SH4 val file and the FoamWave shows error?

Anyone have info so I can correct this?

[Jan Kyster]

Which .val file?

Tried a handful here with same S3D version and found no errors?

Weird but I'm not getting the errors now.


Perhaps there was a confict in system memory or something.
After makeing changes to some controller files they were not accepeted right off.
Restoreing the original files did not fix the error until
I let the system sit for a few minutes.

[SteelViking]

Ok guys, some help would be much appreciated.

I just reinstalled .NET framework 3.5, and I followed the link provided on the first post to the DX9c managed extension download, and installed that. But I cannot install S3d.

Here is what is happening upon double clicking on the loader:

Notepad pops up and sits there for about 20 seconds blank, and then a bunch of nonsense with a few blocks of actual text. None of the text really means much though.

Does anyone know what is going on here? I am probably missing something painfully obvious.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by privateer

Perhaps there was a confict in system memory or something.

Or in your own memory.

Flies in the eyes.
Water on the brain.
Head in the skies.
Missed the 'A' train.

Sorry, couldn't resist. I bought a new toy today, and I'm still giddy.

[pileggicam]

this is a really good tool

[Urbijan]

Nothing seems to work anymore, all DL's are dead to Skwas HP - can somebody help and send the File or the working link for a Download?

Thanks - and always a hand wide Water under the keel

[HertogJan]

Have same problem... gonna try again tomorrow