The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread

[Reece]

@ RSColonel_131st, agree 100%, I will never buy a game with DRM/OSP!

[THE_MASK]

I can see why they would want it though .
$1.5m fine for illegal game upload
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...45-952,00.html

[Brag]

@RScolonel

Thank you. Excellent post. A periscope view of what the future may bring if we don't stand firm and snap our wallets shut.

[KL-alfman]

Originally Posted by Reece

@ RSColonel_131st, agree 100%, I will never buy a game with DRM/OSP!

quoted and seconded!

[Ragtag]

RSColonel my old 131st mate, i totally agree with you. Great post.

[Seeadler]

Originally Posted by Greenhornet

Rise of flight developers have seen how much business they've lost and have decided to patch the game so you can play single player offline...

This is done at the insistence of the publisher for Western Europe "Aerosoft", because "Aerosoft" only sell a few copies with this restriction. Neoqb, the developers never wanted to remove it. The same with the account servers, Aerosoft will establish in the near future his own servers because of the weak connection to the Neoqb servers

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Greenhornet

I haven't been to the subsim forums for a while and have just read that SHV will have DRM. I have been playing Silent Hunter since SHII and have really enjoyed the game. I have purchased every copy as soon as it was released, but I won't be buying SHV.

I've experienced DRM with Rise of Flight that I bought without knowing what DRM was. Believe me it sucks. With Rise of Flight you get constant "cannot connect to master server" errors and I feel ripped off because I feel I only have half a game. If I wanted to play online games I would have bought World of Warcraft. Rise of flight developers have seen how much business they've lost and have decided to patch the game so you can play single player offline.... To little to late my friends... the damage is done.

I don't have an XBox or other console, but I'm sure we're going to see Game developers go in that direction, just look at your local EB Games outlet, the computer games section is a sliver of the store.

One thing I'm sure about though, as long as the game developers decide to go with DRM or other such protections, I'll be holding on to my cash for other hobbies!

Welcome back. We have several topics on the DRM theme, so I merged yours with this one.

I personally have not experienced a game with online all the time DRM, so I cannot comment. If it's as bad as you paint it, then I would agree, it's not acceptable. I bought ROF a couple weeks ago but with all the server problems and several assignments ahead of it, I have not had time to install it

I wouldn't be surprised if eventually all games go to the console, except the really big selling PC games. Games like Silent Hunter are on their last legs, and this combination of DRM and core fan outrage will drive the final nail in the coffin.

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by Lanzfeld

Yeah. I have "The Orange Box" (Halflife 2) and it really blows to have to go online each time I want to play it.

:d own:

Just don't install the Orange box and then stop playing it then year or so later go back and forget password.

I had a hell of a time trying to convince the techs i was telling the truth, cause i thought i lost the manual that had the key printed on it I was stuffed. Well not really stuffed i could still play Half life 2 and Portal but not Team-fortress 2 which online is required. Did a good clean up and found the manual, took a digital photo of the key which they required and emailed that to them once they confirmed i wasn't bull ****ting them they were very supportive. But what angered me is i was telling the truth from the start!

Whatever happen to Innocent till proven guilty!

Besides didn't matter after about a week of playing TF2 i gave it up couldn't really get into it. So i resold The orange box and made a profit! Auction sites let the bidding begin. lol

[ronjonthobi]

i think that ubisoft should take a long hard look at this site before the ever announce something as stupid and ridicluous as this DRM feature.

Also i have found out....i think it was from subsim that 89% of people who would buy the game won't beacause of the DRM feature. And i am 100% behind those guys.

I also think that ubisoft are going to lose so much money from the lack of sales of the game if its brought out with the feature.....and lets be honest the game is probably gonna get cracked anyhow...its just gonna be the legit gamers who are gonna get screwed over

[RSColonel_131st]

Originally Posted by Ragtag

RSColonel my old 131st mate, i totally agree with you. Great post.

Woha, I had no idea you were around here at Subsim! Greets!

LukeFF is also somewhere here... small world, isn't it.

[cappy70]

When it comes to patching ,there's another trouble spot for it.

I.e. patch install and server/game v.1.0, doesn't recognize game afterwards due to change and you get downtime to it is fixed.

This is a tested fact.

I'm going below decks.Taking her down to 130 meters. Onlline drm too rough a storm for a old pc gamer.Will resurface when sanity returns to the gaming industry.

[BigVette]

I remember being deployed at sea whilst in the Marines and having a laptop to spend the down time is a huge morale booster. With a laptop I could go anywhere on the boat that I otherwise had access to, and in my own peace and security do email on my own off-time (via Outlook while offline, and just send it when I get to a hub where I can,) I can watch movies with my headphones, or I can do something like play a wargame or sub sim to take my mind off the other stuff while not on duty.

If software is going to eventually all go online for verification than the industry is doomed to fail because even people who lawfully purchase the software will hold out because as in my case, even a legal copy wouldn't allow me to use it when and where I needed to.

I can understand software developers plight, but I find it ironic that a WWII German Navy war sim would revert to a nazi-esque form of copy protection.

As a life-long avid PC flight simmer, I know full well that if you want the good payware add-ons, you have to pay for them otherwise there will be no one around to continue to develop the software. In turn, PC flight sims are a dying breed like barber shops, there are far and few between. I'd like to think that most intelligent people who have jobs and can afford to pay for their software realize this.

[Jimbuna]

Welcome to SS BigVette and TeeJay82

[Rip]

Originally Posted by BigVette

I remember being deployed at sea whilst in the Marines and having a laptop to spend the down time is a huge morale booster. With a laptop I could go anywhere on the boat that I otherwise had access to, and in my own peace and security do email on my own off-time (via Outlook while offline, and just send it when I get to a hub where I can,) I can watch movies with my headphones, or I can do something like play a wargame or sub sim to take my mind off the other stuff while not on duty.

If software is going to eventually all go online for verification than the industry is doomed to fail because even people who lawfully purchase the software will hold out because as in my case, even a legal copy wouldn't allow me to use it when and where I needed to.

I can understand software developers plight, but I find it ironic that a WWII German Navy war sim would revert to a nazi-esque form of copy protection.

By a French company no less. Take that you krauts!