The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread

[Greenhornet]

I haven't been to the subsim forums for a while and have just read that SHV will have DRM. I have been playing Silent Hunter since SHII and have really enjoyed the game. I have purchased every copy as soon as it was released, but I won't be buying SHV.

I've experienced DRM with Rise of Flight that I bought without knowing what DRM was. Believe me it sucks. With Rise of Flight you get constant "cannot connect to master server" errors and I feel ripped off because I feel I only have half a game. If I wanted to play online games I would have bought World of Warcraft. Rise of flight developers have seen how much business they've lost and have decided to patch the game so you can play single player offline.... To little to late my friends... the damage is done.

I don't have an XBox or other console, but I'm sure we're going to see Game developers go in that direction, just look at your local EB Games outlet, the computer games section is a sliver of the store.

One thing I'm sure about though, as long as the game developers decide to go with DRM or other such protections, I'll be holding on to my cash for other hobbies!

[Tarnsman]

I hope its not as bad as you say. im going to give it a go and see.

I dont understand why M$ played the PC game business so poorly and by extension everyone else. Basically IMHO highquality gaming is the only thing that PCs do well that is not done better elsewhere. If it were not for gaming why else buy a super quad core cpu unless you are designing aircraft or running an F1 team. My spreadsheet and word processing programs have been doing the same thing since 1995, just fine thank you.

Heck ATI and nVidia ought to be investing in PC game development since that is about the only reason to buy their mass market products. As for consoles, I've been there done that and I felt like I spent alot of money just to play Madden football with friends (no disrespect to Madden) An afternoon with a Playstation gets boring pretty quick for me. A weekend with my gaming rig is never enough time.

I hope DRM dosnt kill PC gaming, its one of my favorite hobbies. Maybe the industry should take a page from Ray Kroc founder of the McDonnalds franchise system: give away the burgers and fries and sell the soda.

[Jimbuna]

As worrying as it is, DRM looks like the way forward in the software companies plans as a means of combatting piracy.

It is gratifying to see there is a growing resitance to what many see as a draconian measure. This resistance is gathering support and an early sign of success would be the ROF game.

I'd be happy with a 'half way house' outcome.........online registration and the ability for single player mode offline.

Ever the optimist.

[Sgtmonkeynads]

If we all went out today and bought ROF, since our hated D-word is gone, would that, could that have an impact on how other developers see DRM. If ROF ditched something nobody liked, and then sales sky-rocket, would other compainis ditch it too? What would it actually take to make companies see our point of view? Money!

[Iron Budokan]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I'd be happy with a 'half way house' outcome.........online registration and the ability for single player mode offline.

Ever the optimist.

I could also live with online registration.

[THE_MASK]

I can see why they would want it though .
$1.5m fine for illegal game upload
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...45-952,00.html

[Seeadler]

Originally Posted by Greenhornet

Rise of flight developers have seen how much business they've lost and have decided to patch the game so you can play single player offline...

This is done at the insistence of the publisher for Western Europe "Aerosoft", because "Aerosoft" only sell a few copies with this restriction. Neoqb, the developers never wanted to remove it. The same with the account servers, Aerosoft will establish in the near future his own servers because of the weak connection to the Neoqb servers

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Greenhornet

I haven't been to the subsim forums for a while and have just read that SHV will have DRM. I have been playing Silent Hunter since SHII and have really enjoyed the game. I have purchased every copy as soon as it was released, but I won't be buying SHV.

I've experienced DRM with Rise of Flight that I bought without knowing what DRM was. Believe me it sucks. With Rise of Flight you get constant "cannot connect to master server" errors and I feel ripped off because I feel I only have half a game. If I wanted to play online games I would have bought World of Warcraft. Rise of flight developers have seen how much business they've lost and have decided to patch the game so you can play single player offline.... To little to late my friends... the damage is done.

I don't have an XBox or other console, but I'm sure we're going to see Game developers go in that direction, just look at your local EB Games outlet, the computer games section is a sliver of the store.

One thing I'm sure about though, as long as the game developers decide to go with DRM or other such protections, I'll be holding on to my cash for other hobbies!

Welcome back. We have several topics on the DRM theme, so I merged yours with this one.

I personally have not experienced a game with online all the time DRM, so I cannot comment. If it's as bad as you paint it, then I would agree, it's not acceptable. I bought ROF a couple weeks ago but with all the server problems and several assignments ahead of it, I have not had time to install it

I wouldn't be surprised if eventually all games go to the console, except the really big selling PC games. Games like Silent Hunter are on their last legs, and this combination of DRM and core fan outrage will drive the final nail in the coffin.