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Old 08-17-09, 02:20 PM   #76
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Well why aren't you suing them then? Drag their asses to court.
Neither you or I have legal standing to bring suit on that issue OTH. If we were whaling ship owners whose vessel had been rammed by a SS ship then we would have legal standing.
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Old 08-17-09, 02:27 PM   #77
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Well are the Japanese suing them then? If so then it hasn't put the Sheperds out of business. Seems to me that both sides act in a kind of legal grey area.
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Old 08-17-09, 02:49 PM   #78
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If so then it hasn't put the Sheperds out of business.
I'm no expert on international civil law but don't think it's all that easy to do that. I suppose Japan could sue them in a Japanese court but how could they force payment? It's not like SS has assets in Japans jurisdiction that could be seized in lieu of payment and they can't very well have law enforcement seize an SS ship on the high seas.

Better to just sink them as the pirates they are imo...
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Old 08-17-09, 03:19 PM   #79
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The French had an almost unique way of dealing with such people but sadly, one person lost their life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking...ainbow_Warrior
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Old 08-17-09, 04:24 PM   #80
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The French had an almost unique way of dealing with such people but sadly, one person lost their life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking...ainbow_Warrior
I remember reading about that awhile ago. Frankly I thought that to be a good way of handling it, versus sinking the ship offshore likely killing all on board.
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Old 08-17-09, 05:21 PM   #81
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Well why aren't you suing them then? Drag their asses to court.
They have been repeatedly sued , they have lost thier ships to the courts , they are the subject of international arrest warrants for terrorism, they are about to lose their registry status for breaking maritime law.
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They have been repeatedly sued , they have lost thier ships to the courts , they are the subject of international arrest warrants for terrorism, they are about to lose their registry status for breaking maritime law.
Please provide details. This is good stuff! This Sea Shepard needs to be sunk!

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Old 08-18-09, 01:40 AM   #83
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Opposition of Sea Shepherd!

You are seeing evil in the wrong side here and that is your biggest mistake!
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Old 08-18-09, 02:00 AM   #84
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Opposition of Sea Shepherd!

You are seeing evil in the wrong side here and that is your biggest mistake!
So you're the authority on evil now, too?
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So you're the authority on evil now, too?

What do you want me to tell you exactly ? I don't like poachers at sea I see them as bigger threat to earths ecosystem, than SS activity. And if I ever start and finish contructing my u-boat I will find them and give them something to remember
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What do you want me to tell you exactly ? I don't like poachers at sea I see them as bigger threat to earths ecosystem, than SS activity. And if I ever start and finish contructing my u-boat I will find them and give them something to remember
yeah, good for you
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What do you want me to tell you exactly ? I don't like poachers at sea I see them as bigger threat to earths ecosystem, than SS activity. And if I ever start and finish contructing my u-boat I will find them and give them something to remember
So you dream of becoming a pirate (In my opinion)? Is that the case contact? Do you dream of killing all those people with families? I do not believe even SS wants the whalers dead.... what does that say about your U-boat dreams (In my opinion) eh?

You stop poachers by using whatever sensors you can to record their activity. The whaling popularity in Japan was starting to sour fast until SS turned it into a nationalistic thing. The whalers are being hailed as heros for withstanding SS attacks instead of people doing a flawed activity.
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So you dream of becoming a pirate (In my opinion)? Is that the case contact? Do you dream of killing all those people with families? I do not believe even SS wants the whalers dead.... what does that say about your U-boat dreams (In my opinion) eh?

You stop poachers by using whatever sensors you can to record their activity. The whaling popularity in Japan was starting to sour fast until SS turned it into a nationalistic thing. The whalers are being hailed as heros for withstanding SS attacks instead of people doing a flawed activity.
Enjoy trolling much? The Shepards have never killed or even harmed anyone.

There is no real entity to keep the illegal or semi-illegal whaling in check, if there was then maybe these guys weren't needed. As things are they are out there and if they hadn't been out there defending whales many species would have been on the brink of extinction if not extinct.

Tribesman,

well they've been at it for about 30 years, if they're about to go out of business then, well, I'll believe it when I see it.
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OoneToughHering, I find it very hard to belive that the sea shepard has ad anything but the most minute effect on any population of any species of whales. Their tactics are only druming up support for whaling from the japanese public, though I have no information on wether its popularity was waning beforehand or not.

Now, back to herr Contact.
Are you 12? I no not mean this to be insulting, I only mean that you come off as someone very young, allways talking in absolutes and speaking of grand gestures. The thing about those is that there are very few (if any) absolutes in this world and grand gestures only look good on paper whithout having much real effect on the real world.

Now then, I do not particularly like Japans whaling activity, but that is more due to their oversteping of quotas and breaking of international law, than any urge to shave the whales. Regardless, what the SS is doing is silly, wrong and counterproductive to their efforts and therefore needs to stop before things escalate from sillyness and stupidity to the grand magnificence that a pile of fail is.
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Now, back to herr Contact.
Are you 12? I no not mean this to be insulting, I only mean that you come off as someone very young, allways talking in absolutes and speaking of grand gestures. The thing about those is that there are very few (if any) absolutes in this world and grand gestures only look good on paper whithout having much real effect on the real world.
If you asked.. I'm 27. And my speaking manner is directly related to my charachter. That is where from the absolute thinking is rising.

Speaking of grand gestures I think most important is at least to have them!
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