Sea Shepards ram Japanese whaling ship

Wow, I didn't know these guys are so feisty. Good for them.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e4e_1250377389

[d@rk51d3]

Seems to be a popular new series on TV.
So far, the Japanese only retaliate with water cannons and flash-bangs.

Can't wait till they start using real arms.


The whale huggers wanna be pirates, then deal with them like pirates.

http://www.icrwhale.org/eng-index.htm

More stuff.

I hope that ship is impounded and the skipper permanantly beached for such acts of stupidity at sea.

[Letum]

It's about time something was done about this.
Is the Japanese Navy able to help?

[Freiwillige]

I am not much for tree hugging but the senseless slaughter of whales is a bit ridicules. Research my foot! Good for the hippies its about time they learned violence is effective.

[Letum]

So long as there are sufficient stocks, I'm happy for any number of whales to
be slaughters for any reason. There is no reason not to use what nature
provides, so long as we do it in a sustainable way where possible.

The Japanese have a history of breaking whaling quotas and regulations. They are free to pursue whatever legal action against the Sea Shepards for that, that is if they are sure they haven't broken regulations themselves.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Letum

So long as there are sufficient stocks, I'm happy for any number of whales to
be slaughters for any reason.

That's the reasoning that nearly wiped them out the first time. Whales, like all mammals, have a much slower rate of population growth than, say, fish, reptiles or insects.

Ecologically, mammals are rather delicate.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by d@rk51d3

Seems to be a popular new series on TV.
So far, the Japanese only retaliate with water cannons and flash-bangs.

Can't wait till they start using real arms.


The whale huggers wanna be pirates, then deal with them like pirates.

Roger that. Whether or not you agree with whaling, this show just pisses me off. It just glamorizes eco terrorism. Kinda makes me wish the Japanese Navy would grow a pair and takes these guys out. (I like the impounding idea)

http://www.seashepherd.org/





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[Letum]

So long as there are sufficient stocks, I'm happy for any number of whales to
be slaughters for any reason.

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

That's the reasoning that nearly wiped them out the first time. Whales, like all mammals, have a much slower rate of population growth than, say, fish, reptiles or insects.

Ecologically, mammals are rather delicate.

"So long as there are sufficient stocks"
i.e. so long as the population can sustain the volume of harvest.

That was not the case in the past and was certainly not the reasoning that
lead to the decline of whales.


If Dodos where hunted "So long as there are sufficient stocks" we would
still have Dodos today.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Letum

"So long as there are sufficient stocks"
i.e. so long as the population can sustain the volume of harvest.

That was not the case in the past and was certainly not the reasoning that
lead to the decline of whales.


If Dodos where hunted "So long as there are sufficient stocks" we would
still have Dodos today.

Unenforceable. We can't even stop the hunting of wholey protected species. Besides, what is 'sustainable'? Counting and tracking the numbers of mating pairs on land is one thing; you can even pen the endangered species in reserves. You can't do that with aquatic species, and keeping track of them is not so neat and easy.

[Torplexed]

[Letum]

Fishing quotas for fish have been proven enforceable in several countries.
Due to their size, I would imagine it is easier to enforce whaling quotas.

As for assessing numbers, educated guesses can be made and quotas drawn
up to provide minimal risk in the worst case scenario.
So long as a sufficient margins are left, there is no significant risk.