Sharon Bialek accuses Herman Cain of groping her

[Gerald]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15641636


Note: Update Record,8 November 2011 Last updated at 23:19 GMT

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

When prefaced with 'sexual' it implies that the object of the 'affection' is underage, yes.

No, it doesn't.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

No, it doesn't.

Excellent rebuttal.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Excellent rebuttal.

Show me the money. Where is it found that sexual+predatory means underage. Or implies it.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Show me the money. Where is it found that sexual+predatory means underage. Or implies it.

Again, go ahead and do a Google search for 'sexual predator'. Then come back and tell me how you think our society uses this term.

[AVGWarhawk]

CLASSIFICATION OF OFFENDERS
A SEXUAL PREDATOR is defined as a person who has been convicted of, or pleaded guilty to, committing a sexually oriented offense and who is likely in the future to commit additional sexually oriented offenses. Offenders can be classified as sexual predators in one of the following ways:

1. The Offender is convicted of a sexually violent offense with a sexually violent predator specification, (or)
2. The sentencing court, after holding a sexual predator hearing pursuant to O.R.C. 2950.09, determines that the offender is a sexual predator.

http://publicsafety.ci.akron.oh.us/p.../offender.html

How society(general public) NCI/Criminal mind or media uses the term believe it implies underage.

[AVGWarhawk]

By legal definition, a sexual predator is a person who has been convicted of or pled guilty to committing a sexually oriented offense, and who is likely in the future to commit additional sexually oriented offenses.

http://www.enotes.com/sexual-predati...haracteristics


I have not found any article specifically on "sexual predator" indicating or implied underage. I think the stigmata is there because it is generated by the media in the form of news and TV programs.

I still stand by more original retort.

Law school, was it?

But remember it is law school where all the lecturers don't know anything and all the texts are wrong and part of a liberal conspiracy and all the students apart from dear bubbles are unintelligent drones who are barely able to speak and are unable to think.

Don't do half measures when it comes to illustrating Bubbles

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

http://publicsafety.ci.akron.oh.us/p.../offender.html

How society(general public) NCI/Criminal mind or media uses the term believe it implies underage.

Exactly my point. The public at large regards the term as relating to sexual deviancy, specifically directed at the exploitation of minors. By labeling Clinton as a sexual predator, an effort is made to use this perception to cast him in a negative light. While there are many things that are wrong with Clinton and his term as president, pedophilia was not among them. This is the type of 'character assasination'--a term coined, with no small amount of irony, by those on the right and a tactic decried by numerous members of these forums; some in this very thread. Seems to me that it is a rather insincere form of argument.

[August]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I didn't ignore it, I didn't gloss over it, and I didn't defend it. I've made no mention of Clinton at all. What on earth are you even talking about? "You liberals"...like I'm the spokesperson for some collective hivemind.

If you want to make snippy comments to a liberal for defending Bill Clinton's sexual harassment suits, then you might want to direct them at a liberal who...um...you know, actually defended Bill Clinton's sexual harassment suits.

Right mookie. You never characterized bill clintons legal troubles as a republican witch hunt like every other liberal on these boards...

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Exactly my point. The public at large regards the term as relating to sexual deviancy, specifically directed at the exploitation of minors. By labeling Clinton as a sexual predator, an effort is made to use this perception to cast him in a negative light. While there are many things that are wrong with Clinton and his term as president, pedophilia was not among them. This is the type of 'character assasination'--a term coined, with no small amount of irony, by those on the right and a tactic decried by numerous members of these forums; some in this very thread. Seems to me that it is a rather insincere form of argument.

I'm not sure if the public at large regard the term as relating to a minor but, we can say the news will drill a story involving sexual activity with minors into the ground. Look at Penn State. This story will be repeated and followed for weeks. A school teacher involved with a minor. All over the news. A possible serial rapist gets a spot today and is dismissed tomorrow. As far as Clinton and describing him as sexual predator and know his story we can say that most would not associate the story to sexual activity with minors. We can say he is a sexual predator. It is a character assassination. Nothing more. Politico should have some strong evidence on Cain (I don't believe they do). If not, Politico would have destroyed this man, campaign and life.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by August

Right mookie. You never characterized bill clintons legal troubles as a republican witch hunt like every other liberal on these boards...

Depends on which legal troubles you're referring to. The Monica Lewinsky case? Yeah, that was a witch hunt and I could have said as much on these boards in the past. I don't remember. It's also irrelevant to the matter at hand as it was also consensual sex.

The sexual harassment cases? Never said anything about them. But i'm sure he did it and that makes him as big a scumbag as Cain.

[1480]

David Gregory, noted progressive media host had the following to say about the GOP in regards to Cain:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...o_go_away.html

David Gregory, NBC News: "Well there is no, you know, Grand Wizard in the party right now who can really force the issue. I've talked to Cain's advisers in Iowa, they think their support is still strong there, that it's not falling. There may be cracks in the foundation according to pollsters I'm talking to, that his numbers may be starting to shift but right now core support remains there."

Open mouth insert hoof

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I'm not sure if the public at large regard the term as relating to a minor but, we can say the news will drill a story involving sexual activity with minors into the ground. Look at Penn State. This story will be repeated and followed for weeks. A school teacher involved with a minor. All over the news. A possible serial rapist gets a spot today and is dismissed tomorrow. As far as Clinton and describing him as sexual predator and know his story we can say that most would not associate the story to sexual activity with minors. We can say he is a sexual predator. It is a character assassination. Nothing more. Politico should have some strong evidence on Cain (I don't believe they do). If not, Politico would have destroyed this man, campaign and life.

I think that I have adequately demonstrated that the association with minors is, in fact, the overall public perception. As for the rest of your post, we are in agreement. The sensationalism of the media will drive, and continue to drive, these stories into the collective conscience of America. Just what evidence there is against Cain we do not know, and I would like to think that his categorical denial is an indication that this is a smear attempt. However, strange things happen to people when they enter politics and he wouldn't be the first politician to tell an out-and-out lie. Time will tell in terms of the validity of the allegations, but I think that his run for President is over.

EDIT: 1480, that sort of language (Grand Wizard) is image building language in the very same vein as we were discussing. It is distasteful and shows clear bias on the part of Mr. Gregory. Meet the Press comes on at 10:30 here, and I used to watch it with Tim Russert for the first half hour before switching to The McLaughlin Group at 11:00. Now I watch This Week, as I find Gregory utterly distasteful in his bias.

[AVGWarhawk]

WASHINGTON (AP) — A woman who settled a sexual harassment complaint against GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain in 1999 complained three years later at her next job about unfair treatment, saying she should be allowed to work from home after a serious car accident and accusing a manager of circulating a sexually charged email, The Associated Press has learned.

Kraushaar said Tuesday she did not remember details about the complaint and did not remember asking for a payment, a promotion or a Harvard fellowship. Bennett, her lawyer, declined to discuss the case with the AP, saying he considered it confidential. Kraushaar left her job at the immigration service after dropping the complaint in 2003, and she went to work at the Treasury Department.

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-a...080946066.html


Gee..she can't remember? Sexual predators and habitual filers of false claims. No one can remember a damn thing.